Talk:Manny Villar/Archive 1

POV Statements
Senator Manny Villar, despite his numerous accomplishments and heroism, has remained simple and unaffected. A true family man, he is a devoted husband to Rep. Cynthia A. Villar (Lone District of Las Piñas), and a loving father to sons Paolo and Mark and daughter Camille.


 * Reply:This needs to be revised to be more NPOV. Daimengrui 13:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

2007 Senate President
Villar was elected today.

--Florentino floro 04:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Billionaire
I have to add this link to put citation or reference to the unsupported edits: until 2008 with a net worth of P 1,041,383,9246.GMA NEWS.TV, Villar is a billionaire; other senators are millionaires --Florentino floro (talk) 12:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The 2010 presidency
To the top: Villar Jr., on June 6, 2008 announced that he is 99% joining the Philippine general election, 2010 (one percent, is on the possibility of no election), amid his nomination of the Nacionalista Party (NP), chaired by him. Villar stated that: "We are prepared to have alliance with other political parties."gmanews.tv, Sun.Star: Villar firm in seeking presidencysunstar.com.ph, Villar is firm in running for president--Florentino floro (talk) 09:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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 * The site was used again in the article as a source. However, I removed most of the text that are backed by it. I see it as a misuse of a primary source. Alexius08 (talk) 07:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

MANNY VILLAR AND HIS VICE PRESIDENT
I think a portion of the article should talk about the vice president of Manny Villar. Loren Legarda? Bayani Fernando? or Mar Roxas? What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.50.227.98 (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Added controversial section with proper sources
I added sources from Manila bulletin and Philippine star regarding C5 road project and his Commercial using the death of his brother. Cablespy (talk) 05:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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"Leukemia is incurable at that time?"<== This is so misleading. Leukemia is still 'incurable'. There is no curable cancer, except for those where the cancerous parts can be removed such as breast cancer. The medicine that is used for leukemia, even now, cannot completely cure it, just suppress it or prolong the ill person's life. There is always the danger of regression. Read up on: http://serc.carleton.edu/woburn/overarching/leuk_treatment.html and other sources about the history of leukemia. At that time (1962), it was already the advent of chemotherapy. Someone who had enough money or connections could procure even just experimental medicine on leukemia. At that time, treatment for leukemia, particularly for children, was already available though not to the common consumer.

The reference to that (number [3]) is an "OPINION" section. Those are not facts. The opinion article itself does not have any citations to which we can refer to, to prove that what the writer put there is true. I won't edit the article itself but if anyone else can find more sources, then feel free to edit it in. I am a Wikipedia user who is tired of all the misinformation especially on May 10 2010 Philippine Presidentiables, whoever they may be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.68.114 (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this. Opinion columns are not acceptable sources for facts, especially from such a biased writer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.177.74.144 (talk) 16:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Poor family
Some expansion on the references that say Villar was born to a poor family: She has been in the business for a long time and her husband is a government employee. This is pure lie.
 * http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20070506-64322/Nanay_Curing_won%92t_let_age_get_in_the_way_of_business
 * "they were so poor that she had to pawn her sewing machine for P30 just to be able to send him off with some pocket money"
 * "Those were hard times. She had no money to capitalize her seafood store"

This is normal business transactions. The husband feed the family and the wife business can have problem from time to time.
 * http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrinterFriendly.aspx?articleId=465880
 * "family was so poor she would collect empty tin cans and sell these to bagoong dealers"
 * "There were times when I couldn’t pay my rent or my fish suppliers on time, and the market bosses or traders would scold me. It came to a point where I had to issue postdated checks."

Its a claim that is not reflected in the official bio of Manny Villar.
 * http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrinterFriendly.aspx?articleId=523297
 * "Remember, he was born very poor."

This does not say he is poor at all. Poor origin is a claim but you can see that both husband and wife has work ! Villar himself studied at a private school.
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20061018050250/http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/95/0818/biz1.html
 * "God didn't give Villar much to start with. For the Philippines' biggest home builder began life in a tiny rented apartment in Manila's gang-infested Tondo slums."
 * "Besides his poor origins..."

Tondo is known a slum area but some are from middle class like Joseph Estrada who is also from Tondo.
 * http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/86/philippines-billionaires-09_Manuel-Villar_16LV.html
 * "Shrimp vendor's son grew up in slum."

Again this is a claim which is not reflected in Villar offical bio
 * http://the-diplomat.com/philippines-election-2010/candidate-profiles/
 * "Having been born into poverty..."

Businesswoman is not poor, she has business. Poor are those who do not have work.
 * http://www.senate.gov.ph/senators/sen_bio/villar_bio.asp
 * "helped his mother sell seafood at the Divisoria market in order to support his siblings and himself to school"

Market vendor son is not considered poor. They can earn a living. Poor are those who do not have work and cannot feed their families or even send them in a private school.
 * http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrinterFriendly.aspx?articleId=523297
 * "son of a market vendor"

These are from the references already included in the article, many of them from before the presidential campaign. TheCoffee (talk) 09:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

All of this are claims which is very deceiving since Villar parents both has work, his father was promoted to director position afterwards, it did not state when it happened, it could have happened when villar was born also. Villar also went to a private school. So the claim of being poor can be deceiving.

So in effect Manny Villar official bio in his website and senate reflects simple/humble which can either be poor or middle class, but other news outlet translated it as poor. We should follow his official bio as from simple family. (Bessy balubar (talk) 06:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC))

Here are some of the reasons why Manny Villar is not poor : 1. Official site Manny Villar states he is from simple/humble family. 2. Both his parents has work. Dad was promoted as government director. 3. Manny Villar studied in private school. 4. poor claim is under dispute read : And Still Mahirap http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100330-261658/And-still-mahirap

How Manny Villar lied and used the death of his brother Danny http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=562010&publicationSubCategoryId=64

Awesome (claims) by Manny Villar http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100327-261024/Awesome-claims

Villar was never a Tondo poor boy http://politics.inquirer.net/view.php?db=1&article=20100313-258329

My claims are valid and you are now threatening to block me from editing ? Bessy balubar (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, there's no need to that kind of talk. I suggest that you present that in a neutral point of view, like specifying an article that is posted that claims that info. Just keep it neutral. And just let the readers decide.StriderVM 19:50, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

External links modified
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