Talk:Manta ray

Video
I have a number of videos I took of a manta. Not sure how to edit videos but I have a few that are better but to big to upload here. Drop me a note if you are interested. Anyway was taken during a night dive. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 00:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

"Lifecycle" section needs work. Badly.
Here is the opening sentence: "Mating takes place at different times of the year in different parts of the manta's range."

Could that statement be any less meaningful or more ambiguous? Sounds like a UK weather forecast. In other words, you have no idea. Therefore, just say nothing. That sentence has a value of zero.

This article is completely fouled up with technobabble and jargon, and full of statements like this... This is what happens when amateurs are allowed to write in public. People, it's OK not to know something. If your reader is left questioning what you just said, then you have effectively said nothing. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 05:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Brain size / intelligence
Hi. I have read in a few (non academic) articles references to the large brain size, curiousity, social behaviour and apparent high intelligence of Manta Rays (unsourced unfortunately). This is quite an interesting/special and feature of the Manta Ray and not widely known about, if someone better read on manta ray research or at least with better access to journals than me could add a section on this it would really add to the page. NickPriceNZ (talk) 06:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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Family classification
This article states the family as Myliobatidae. The article on the two extant species (see species links) give the family as Mobulidae in the article and as Myliobatidae in the box. This should be reconciled for all three articles. Ptilinopus (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Furthermore, all manta rays are now classified as part of the mobula genus, after a taxonomic reclassification which took place in 2017, more info on this here: https://biopixel.tv/mantas-actually-mobula/

Example: Marine Megafauna Foundation page: https://marinemegafauna.org/news-and-media/giant-manta-becomes-the-first-manta-ray-to-be-listed-as-an-endangered-species

The article should be updated to refer to Mobula alfredi and Mobula birostris

This article on a manta ray that enlisted human help removing fishhooks from near its eye
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/off-the-hook-manta-ray-asks-divers-for-helping-hand/ (referencing and embedding this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp1MT7j7mw4) Should we add something about this to the article? Possibly under "relation with humans" or the paragraph of "behavior and ecology" that deals with cleaning stations?

WP:URFA/2020: range map
File:Cypron-Range Manta birostris.svg mentions www.iucnredlist.org as its source but the IUCN's 2018 map is quite different, especially in the Atlantic. Which one is correct? A455bcd9 (talk) 12:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

"Macropredator"
In the "Feeding" section, mantas are described as being "filter feeders as well as macropredators." This sentence is a little ungainly, as "macropredator" can mean simply a very large animal that is a predator (filter feeders are technically predators) or it can mean "apex predator" or an animal that preys on other large animals, which mantas are not. 172.103.208.205 (talk) 04:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

nonsense
"The first manta ray birth in captivity took place there in 2007. Although this pup did not survive, the aquarium has since had the birth of four more manta rays in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. However, although Manta became pregnant in 2012, she was stillborn. In 2013, she became pregnant, but her mother, manta ray, died and the pup that was taken out died." The second half of this looks like an AI wrote it or something; it's completely unintelligible, and seems to think manta and manta ray are the names of two individual rays or something? 2600:1702:2A30:CD0:6815:B0FF:6751:5FEE (talk) 14:36, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That text was inserted with this edit It was an effort by an editor whose first language is probably not English to insert material from a Japanese source, rather than any AI shenanigans. William Avery (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)