Talk:Mapna Locomotive Engineering and Manufacturing Company

First Iran Locomotives after Islamic revolution
It is notable that this company is intending to manufacture Iran's first locomotives in 30 years after the 1979 Iran's revoluion. So there is a lot of talk about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.217.43.39 (talk) 13:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Except the Alstom_Prima_diesel_locomotives which was already running in 2002 and produced by the Wagon Pars company?FengRail (talk) 17:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Iran and EU business: Subject of dispute
As Gaurdian reports in: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/nov/09/eu.iran

"Multinational companies are coming under increasing pressure from the US to stop doing business with Iran because of its nuclear programme. European operators are facing threats from Washington that they could jeopardise their US interests by continuing to deal with Tehran, with increasing evidence that European governments, mainly France, Germany and Britain, are supporting the US campaign. It emerged last night that Siemens, one of the world's largest engineering groups and based in Germany, has pulled out of all new business dealings with Iran after pressure from the US and German governments. This follows the decision by Germany's three biggest banks, Deutsche, Commerzbank, and Dresdner, to quit Iran after a warning from US vice-president Dick Cheney that if firms remain in Tehran, they are going to have problems doing business in the US.

The US is tightening its economic squeeze on Iran and last month unilaterally imposed a new round of sanctions. It regularly complains in private to the British and other European governments that American efforts are being undermined by European companies continuing to do business with Tehran. If economic sanctions fail to have an impact by next year, pressure will mount from Mr Cheney to launch air strikes against Iran.

Siemens insiders said the group, which is in the throes of clearing up a series of bribery and corruption cases involving payments of some €1.3bn (£900,000), would carry out existing contracts in Iran which have attracted government export credit guarantees, but would seek no new contracts. The engineering group won a contract four years ago to supply 24 power stations to the Iranians and last year secured a provisional €450m deal to supply 150 locomotives for Iran's railways.

Officials said Siemens' Iranian business amounted to less than 1% of annual group turnover of €84bn last year. This compares with sales of $21.4bn (€14.4bn or £10.1bn) in the US where the group employs 70,000. It is understood that 80% of the company's trade is in power generation but sources insisted that Siemens had no involvement in Iran's nuclear power programme. Germany is Iran's biggest trading partner, with a 2006 surplus of €4bn, but trade was down 18% in the first half of this year. UK exports to Iran fell 7% last year to £431.4m, according to the British-Iran chamber of commerce. "

As Haaretz reports in (Weinthal, Benjamin: „Germany´s Iranian secret,“ Haaretz, November 12, 2007, http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/912104.html)

"In 1974, Siemens played a vital role in building Bushehr's nuclear reactor, which was destroyed during the Iran-Iraq war. Matthias Küntzel, a German political scientist and a leading observer of German-Iranian relations, wrote: "In August 2003, Siemens signed a contract for the delivery of 24 power stations. To make this deal, Siemens had to commit itself to 'technology transfer with regard to small and medium-sized power stations."

Siemens has with "high likelihood" delivered sophisticated data surveillance systems to Iran, Erich Moechel, an Austrian investigative journalist, disclosed on April 7, 2008. "Monitoring Centers," used to track mobile and land-line phone conversations, had been sent to Iran. These systems could enable the Iranian intelligence service to document conversations between Israel and Iran and "build a communication profile." Moechel, a specialist in the field of data protection and surveillance, said that he was highly certain that the Iranian regime had purchased German-designed "Intelligence Platform" systems, which allow the Iranian secret service to monitor "financial transactions and traffic and airplane movements." Weinthal, Benjamin: „German firm helps Iran monitor Israel,“ Jerusalem Post, April 8, 2008,


 * Can I delete this - it looks like spam. ? FengRail (talk) 17:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Dear Wikipedia Admins,

Please note that as can be relised in the references this company was a constant dispute in US and Israeli newspapers which criticise the development of EU companies with Iranian Companies.
 * I'm not an admin but I can recognise when an article has references that are irrelevent to it. The article is about a railway company - not a nuke bomb manifacturer - ie wrong page.FengRail (talk) 17:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Some of this material reads as if it has been copied from a previous publication, which is not permissible. Please rewrite in your own words--for advice see our guide to writing Wikipedia articles. Please also remove all language which might seem propmotion, such as phrases that resemble advertising. DGG (talk) 18:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

tidy
Removed links to some political subject - if the subject is that important then why is it being discussed on an article about a subsidary company producing trains?

Also can't find any references to EuroRunner 24 PC - can find a reference to an IranRunner. tidied the loco related section. added infobox - potentially the machine could be covered in a separate article - which might make more sense, as the article is a bit unbalanced at the moment with all the concentration on one product.

Unfortunately I have got a clue about the Persian language, nor do I have a translator, so any useful info at http://www.rai.ir/site.aspx is lost to me.FengRail (talk) 17:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

removed advert tag
The "company misson" section has been deleted (thank god). The remainder of the article is ok.Shortfatlad (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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