Talk:Marblehead, Massachusetts

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During a lecture at the University of Massachusetts, a Teachers assistant tried to explain why Wikipedia is not a reliable source for papers by vandalizing this page. He put in that Marblehead is the sailing capital of the world, an obviously incorrect fact. I was appalled by his actions and felt I should record it somewhere.

"sailing capital of the world"
Actually, I grew up in Marblehead and it does like to occasionally claim the title "yachting capital of the world". It's certainly a hard thing to measure but it is important to understanding the town's local mythology and image of itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.207.233.44 (talk) 20:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Marblehead is the home of American Slavery not Dixie...
Marblehead, Mass; is where the first Slave ship was built, and is where the majority of slaves made entry into the United States. This needs to be noted in this, more then the cities beauty and sailing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PBFloyd (talk • contribs) 13:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
 * It certainly was not where the majority of slaves came to the United States. Though it is the site where the first colonial ship that would be used to carry slaves was built, that is hardly relevant to the history of the town itself and no more than a minor historical footnote. The slave trade in Marblehead was always minimal to nonexistant, and only Marblehead's status as an important port in the early colonial period caused any slaves to ever be brought to Marblehead at all. In any case, slaves were already being carried to Charleston, Savannah and Baltimore via British ships long before the colonies started building slave ships themselves. —Cuiviénen 19:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Someone should include an article about notable Marblehead resident Dee Cuffe! She was widely known in the 1970s by her stage name "Dee Cuppe" as a pioneer in the erotic film industry for her "guzzling" performance in "Luck of the Irish 7," the one featuring Tyrone Washington Williams Jackson Black.

Michael Savage
Why was he removed from the list of notable residents?

True, he only lived there briefly (during stint at Harvard), and it was BEFORE he was famous, but that could be said of several others on the list.

He has mentioned it on his show a few times. Supposedly lived in the "Flatiron House" on the corner of Summer and Middle streets (near OKO's).

64.48.78.15 (talk) 21:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

And Keith Ablow lives in either Beverly or Newburyport...unless there's been some recent change.

Local papers made a big deal out of "Beverly doctor to get own show, yadda yadda". Would have noticed had it been MHEAD....

66.3.106.2 (talk) 06:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace of Marine Corps Aviation
This should be included in the background/history of Marblehead. Much like Kitty Hawk is the birthplace of aviation for the "first flight" of the Wright Bros., Marblehead, is the birthplace for Marine Corps Aviation for the "first flight" of Alfred Cunningham http://www.flymcaa.org/getattachment/MCAA-Publications/YellowSheetWinter2012Cunningham.pdf.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.56.88 (talk) 16:16, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Notable people section
I removed Kyle Edwards from this section because he does not meet the Wikipedia guideline for establishing notability, which is a person must have their own article to establish notability. The information I removed is: Kyle Edwards, Red Bull activist, hair model. Thank you--BuzyBody (talk) 22:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The Road Home
Marblehead is featured in The Road Home, part of the Echo Company novels by Ellen Emerson White and is the hometown of the primary character Rebecca Phillips. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.220.243.232 (talk) 20:27, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation
It might seem a bit silly to include a pronunciation for a town that's just two English words, but hear me out .... i think it isnt clear from the spelling whether this town is stressed like MAR-ble-head or like mar-ble-HEAD. I remember the latter but I've been wrong about this before even with words I grew up saying over and over, so I dont want to put it in. :In fact now that I think of it, I remember saying mar-ble-HEAD for the town but MAR-ble-head NECK for the beach. — Soap — 15:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed true. I have never heard locals pronounce the words differently. It's mar-ble-HEAD, but MAR-ble-head NECK. Snezzy (talk) 01:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Removal of local notable people
Re, this was justified on the basis of WP:CITSTRUCT, no article then no inclusion.

However for two of these, there were already linked articles - although these were about locally significant features, not the person themselves:
 * James J.H. Gregory, horticulturalist, known as the "Seed King". Also founded charitable traveling library extension service Marblehead Libraries for southern African Americans
 * Lydia Pinkham Gove: granddaughter of entrepreneur Lydia Pinkham, built mansion Carcassonne on Marblehead Neck with commendation from President Roosevelt, she was the first woman to fly in plane across the United States

I would claim that these both meet CITSTRUCT.

There's also this one, where a clearly notable person's article is still a redlink. However that's an issue of WP's incompleteness, not whether there should be an article. Is that what CITSTRUCT intends? Certainly NLIST has never enforvced this.
 * Edward H. Bennett, Jr., Captain of Harvard and U.S. Olympic Crew Teams, 1936 Summer Olympics, Massachusetts Superior Court Judge

And yet we've kept In Sabrina, the Teenage Witch, Aunt Hilda makes reference to Marblehead in the sixth episode of the second season, entitled "Sabrina, the Teenage Boy." which must be one of the most passing of passing references ever. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Andy Dingley (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)