Talk:Marc Slutsky

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'''I have read the requirements for a musician to have an article on Wikipedia. Marc Slutsky meets all of the following criteria on your list:'''

1. A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.[1]

2. Has had a charted hit on any national music chart.

3. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, reported in reliable sources.[3]

4. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).

5. Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.

6. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

7. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.)

8. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.

'''Feel free to discuss this with me if you disagree. If all is well, please remove your deletion notice. Thank you!'''

Allison

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Abkagan (talk • contribs) 20:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Marc Slutsky this article is about a drummer in nyc that has performed with many notible artists, most of which have wikipedia profiles.

(Abkagan 01:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)abkagan)


 * Please see WP:BAND for the requirements for a musician/band to have an article on Wikipedia. --WebHamster 01:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I have tried to revise the page on this drummer as per the "talks" I had with various wikipedia members. Please help me rewrite the page, if necessary, if this were to be nominated for deletion again. Thank you very much. Abkagan 20:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Allison


 * I've deleted the endorsements section as advertising is not allowed on Wikipedia. Additionally I've created wiki-links instead of external links as external links are discouraged in the text body. You've also made a lot of claims that are unverified. Please either supply citations for all claims or delete the claims. For example I've not been able to find anything that associates Slutsky with the Goo Goo Dolls. The only listing Allmusic has for Slutsky is as drummer for Splender. Currently the article is in no better shape than it was last time, you are still making the same mistakes you made last e.g. the endorsements. I've left citation tags where the claims need to be verified by independent sources. FYI as Slutsky is a Yamaha endorsee then Yamaha is no longer considered independent. YouTube links are not considered reliable sources neither are MySpace pages or blogs.  WebHamste r  21:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've corrected the references formatting. I've also deleted about half a dozen links to a Wiki mirror, i.e. the "iskenderiye" website which was just a copy of the original article that was deleted (including the tag! I've removed some of the inappropriate highlighting/formatting and POV terms. I've replaced the wiki links that were removed.


 * I also deleted the drumstick endorsement page for obvious reasons. So far it's not looking too much like the references are holding up. None of them are about him and only mention him in passing. They are either press releases, fan written or about someone/thing else (e.g. Splender). This is still looking like an article for AfD. References needed are stories about him or his work, or at the very least say more about him than just his name. They have to be from independent sources, ie independent from him, his endorsements and record company etc. They need to be from professional writers rather than fans. Please read WP:N and WP:MUSIC again as you don't appear to have understood what is actually required by way of reference. They aren't all duff and there are a couple of okay ones there e.g. Bill Rebis. Please also remember that you are writing this for an encyclopaedia not a fan or music magazine. Jargon and "cool speak" is not the way to go. I hope this helps.   WebHamste r  23:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Change back to redirect
I have changed this article back to a redirect to Splender. This is based on the consensus that was reached barely a week ago at Articles for deletion/Marc Slutsky. If someone disagrees with the result of that AfD discussion, please take it to WP:DRV and mention the new sources that have been found. It is not appropriate to simply recreate the article this soon. -- Satori Son 23:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I do wish you'd done it an hour ago, you could have saved me some work :p  WebHamste r  23:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry about that... -- Satori Son 18:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)