Talk:March 4/Archive 1

orion
Orion Nebula reference:  Rklawton 02:33, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Discrepancies
Billy Gibbons is listed as having been born on March 4, 1950, however the article on Billy Gibbons says that he was born December 16, 1949. Which is it?

I checked with Google. Both dates are given, and some websites mention that both dates are given. It's possible that other sites are using Wikipedia as their sorce. We're going to have to go back to the original documents (or at least to something that pre-dates Wikipedia) to sort this one out. Rklawton 18:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Chicago was originally incorporated 2/11/1935. Source = http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/pdf_publications/ipub11.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerryzarley (talk • contribs) 16:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * March 4th appears to be the correct date. The Act of Incorporation can be read here and concludes with "Approved March 4, 1837." Winston365 (talk) 22:54, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Significance
Shouldn't a person or event have an article first in order to be listed here? If it doesn't rate an article, why would it rate listing here? Rklawton 16:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

A Study in Scarlet
What does it mean that "A Study in Scarlet, the first Sherlock Holmes story, begins"? Does it mean the fictional plot begins on March 4, 1881 (i.e. Dr. Watson met Sherlock Holmes on this day)? Should it then be considered an event worth included here?

According to the book's article, it was writtin in 1888. Therefore, one might concluce that this is a fictional date within the book. In some date articles, there exists a "fictional date" section (or to that effect). This entry, if verified, would belong in such a section. Rklawton 15:37, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced information?
Re:
 * From 1789, this was Inauguration Day, the day on which the President of the United States was sworn in and took office. Originally held every four years on March 4, the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution changed the time for the President and Vice President's terms to begin to noon on January 20, beginning with Franklin Roosevelt's second term in 1937.

It would seem that this information belongs under events rather than in the first section that defines the date. That is, American politics have little to do with defining and describing the date itself. Most date articles keep this section simple. Articles with more detained information in this section include information regarding the date and the calendar (for example, January 1) rather than an obscure political event. Comments? Rklawton 04:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Removed with no comment. Rklawton 01:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Inauguration Day (1789 - 1933) was added to the Holidays and Observances section several days ago. Acumen76 00:44, 30 March 2006

Trivia
Unlike the majority of date articles, this one seems to be riddled with useless trivia. Rather than trying to thin it out, I think we should start a discussion in the date article project page to sort out what constitutes notability. Rklawton 01:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The "useless trivia", as you so put it, since it was added by myself has now been removed. Events that have related articles to substantiate them have been kept as are those pieces of information that were present on this page originally. Acumen76 00:49, 30 March 2006

Please keep in mind that there is a significant difference between date articles and date/year articles. A date/year article will contain all sorts of information specific to that day in history. However, date articles should only contains events that we'll want to remember years hence. These events mark milestones in various, significant, human endeavors. Rklawton 18:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Only complete sentence?
Can't I tell someone to "March first," or "March twenty-second" for that matter? 69.201.182.203 05:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Crap. Broooooooce (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

World Wide Web
The World Wide Web article indicates that it went online in August 1991. I think this discrepancy needs to be cleared up. Hu 01:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

pov?
" 1797 - In the first ever peaceful transfer of power between elected leaders in modern times, John Adams is sworn in as President of the United States, succeeding George Washington." Really? Says who? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.134.59 (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Just a fun fact
Just thought I'd note that March 4 is the only day that is also a command in the English language (March Forth!). I'd have perhaps added this myself, but I'm really novice at this sort of thing and figured I'd just give it a shot here first, now how is it that I sign my name again? Broooooooce (talk) 08:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Hope that works ;)


 * Somebody has added this now.  Great idea, but is it really true that  it is sometimes celebrated as Progress Day? --The very model of a minor general (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Another fun fact, is that on 4/4/2009 the 44th President of the United States (Barack Obama) had been in office 44 days. Stephen Colbert commented on this in his show, The Colbert Report, on March 5, 2009. - Anon. 8 March 2009

Brett Favre
The announcement of Brett Favre's retirement is not a globally notable event. There is no impactful significance to the event and it should not be listed here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 20:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.171.42 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 4 March 2008

Orion Nebula by William Herschel?
1774 - First sighting of Orion Nebula by William Herschel.

The Orion Nebula article does not mention William Herschel. The William Herschel article does not mention the Orion Nebula.

Even if Herschel DID see the Orion Nebula for the first time in 1774, it was first seen by someone else over 150 years previous and sketched over 100 years previous. What's significant about Herschel's sighting, assuming it happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.96.106.17 (talk) 08:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Removed as inaccurate. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 13:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

1633 tavern opening
The 1633 Boston tavern opening should be removed for two reasons: The first reason is that the event has no long-term global notability. We can't reasonably include the opening of the first tavern in every major US city. The second is that it is not supported in full by a linked article. The presence of an external link (that doesn't support the date March 4 anyway) is irrelevant (WP:DAYS). -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Very well. Although this event has been listed on this page since February 2006, and even though you've made 60 edits to this page without removing it, let's remove it now that a nice anon provides some reference.  Gimmetrow 22:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll certainly admit that I have not read and verified every event on all of the 366 date articles. I only noticed this one now because it was changed.  Unfortunately the reference that was provided does not mention the date March 4.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 15:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

What's special about March 4th?
I've just been counting how many list entries there are for different dates. (OK, to see if my birthday is as special as I think, it's not, but never mind. I'm really not upset.)  Anyway, most dates have about 250 to 300 entries. January 1st has almost 600. March 4th has over 900. It sticks out a mile. Anyone know why this might be? Is someone making their birthday more important?

-Norman

78.148.37.132 (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I collected some statistics on the number of births on each of these pages a few weeks ago. The numbers can be found here. Sorting by number of births clearly shows off the anomaly. Going through the page history it seems much of the difference in the size of this page is due to a single logged in editor, along with a series of what look like dynamic IPs all tracing back to Manchester. Judging from the consistency of the edit summaries the IPs are likely all the same person. As to why a couple of editors have added so many entries to just one page, I have no idea. Winston365 (talk) 00:28, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Jack Seville?
Under births it says that "2002 – Jack Saville, New Zealand drummer" I could not find anything about this person on the internet anywhere, nor is there a link to it on Wikipedia. Someone want to clear up who this is, even if you do only create a stub? Seems like a rather young person... Prettybirdie (talk) 04:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been reverted. Thanks for pointing it out! Cheers! Apparition11 Complaints/ Mistakes 04:36, 27 September 2012 (UTC)