Talk:Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll

Hoax?
This article needs verifiable sources. I removed the alleged "Baron von Brabus". -- Matthead discuß!    O       18:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Old talk
 this may have been a change in degree rather than basic predisposition - LOL!

Does Duncan-Sandys have a first name? -- Zoe


 * I suppose he must, but I haven't seen it yet... probably with his head somewhere, but I'll keep looking! -- Someone else 00:56 19 May 2003 (UTC)

It looks, from Google searches, that his name was Duncan Sandys, no hyphen, Duncan being the first name. Is this possible? -- Zoe

I've got it now (found it by looking for his wife, Diana Churchill), It's Edwin Duncan Sandys (1908-1987), though it looks like he used Duncan and not Edwin. So his name would be (Edwin) Duncan Sandys. But his title would be Lord Duncan-Sandys, I think, with the hyphen (not that it makes any sense, but that's apparently how they named it when they created the title for him). -- Someone else 01:15 19 May 2003 (UTC)

Hm. Do we want to link him as Edwin Duncan Sandys then, or leave it at Lord Duncan-Sandys? -- Zoe


 * I think probably leave it as "Lord Duncan-Sandys", since it seems to be the way he is best known. If I get enough to actually write about him, we can always create a redirect at Edwin Duncan Sandys. -- Someone else 01:20 19 May 2003 (UTC)
 * PPS: If we can locate a headless photo of him, he'll definitely get an article. -- Someone else 01:21 19 May 2003 (UTC)


 * My dictionary of biography (which admittedly has been known to err) says he was Duncan Edward Sandys. The hyphenisation of his name when he was made a lord, by the way, is what they often do to ensure that the lord's title is unique -- either that or make them "Lord So-and-so of Somewhere".  But I think the conventions on use of titles would have him under "Duncan Sandys", not "Lord ...". Deb 21:50 20 May 2003 (UTC)


 * FWIW, Burke's Peerage 106th Ed. calls him "(Edwin) Duncan Sandys, PC, MP (LP as Baron Duncan-Sandys), so created 1974".  Not that it doesn't err, too!.  I'm content to leave the naming to anyone who finds out enough about him to write an article.  (I could certainly not predict from the current conventions on use of titles what that article might be named).  -- Someone else 21:59 20 May 2003 (UTC)
 * Also FWIW, I would agree with Deb that Duncan Sandys is the best option: it's a name he used, and used during the period mentioned here, as opposed to being a title bestowed afterwards. And a name he was known by. So I'll make the links here point to Duncan Sandys: at the very least it needs to be a redirect (from Baron Duncan-Sandys? -- Someone else 22:12 20 May 2003 (UTC)

I've just done a full article on Duncan Sandys. I'm aware some reference books have his name as Edwin Duncan Sandys, and others as Duncan Edwin Sandys. It's presently the latter. Incidentally I know his grandson, Duncan John Winston Sandys. Dbiv 00:19, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530439/UNMASKED-After-50-years-reveal-true-identity-headless-man-sex-picture-Duchess-Argyll-scandalised-Sixties-society.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.201.235 (talk) 02:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

The Scotsman plagiarism
FYI, The Scotsman newspaper seems to have plagiarised ths article for their story For sale - portrait of a 'lady' who frolicked with the headless man

The article most definitely plagiarised the article, particularly the article's last three graphs. I ought to know. I wrote them for Wikipedia! 67.142.130.19 14:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

You're the Top

 * ... mentioned by Cole Porter in the words of his hit song, 'You're the Top,'

Certainly not by name though Lady Astor is. Is there a confusion her or have I missed something? Cutler 11:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

She is indeed mentioned, as "Mrs. Sweeny." Check the lyrics again.67.142.130.19

Diaries
Should we mention that when she got divorced from the Duke of Argyll, some of the evidence was heard "in camera". If rumours are to be believed, it included her diaries which named her lovers, and she gave them marks out of 10 on their performance in bed. The country was awash with rumours about who they were and how many marks they got, Ian MacLeod was the main name mentioned. (Note: this does not refer to any living people.) PatGallacher (talk) 04:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Go to bed early and often
In an article in the programme book for the current production of Powder her Face, the librettist Philip Hensher claims that the line "Go to bed early and often" was not actually said by the Duchess, but was a line he made up for the libretto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.66.85 (talk) 09:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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Maiden name pronunciation?
Is her maiden name, Whigham, pronounced whig-ham, whiggam, or why-am? — O'Dea (talk) 10:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Name of tv series
Should be ‘A Very British Scandal’ (not ‘A Very English Scandal’ which was about Jeremy Thorpe) 2A00:23C7:8E8C:FE01:B535:8FB5:72A8:2D01 (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

This page needs to be moved
The main title is incorrect and should read Margaret, Duchess of Argyll instead... I would move it myself but I cannot be bothered to make an account 173.35.240.92 (talk) 19:10, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to make the case for such a move: "Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll", seems to me to be consistent with other wikipedia articles on wives of peers. Dormskirk (talk) 20:19, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It may be consistent with Wikipedia but it's not the correct style officially and if you notice the website that is in the external links also uses the correct style of Margaret, Duchess of Argyll... you can keep it in the wrong style if you want though I mean it's Wikipedia so I don't expect very much 173.35.240.92 (talk) 17:52, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Margaret, Duchess of Argyll may be correct style but on wikipedia we use naming conventions, specifically WP:NCBRITPEER. For example, His Grace The Duke of Wellington may be correct style but we use Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Dormskirk (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)