Talk:Margaret Carroux/GA1

GA Review
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Nominator: 12:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 15:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking this on! —Kusma (talk) 22:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * Need to state in an edit comment and on the talk page that article was started by translating German Wikipedia article; this is a requirement of Wikipedia's licensing system.
 * I wrote a new article from scratch from the same sources instead of translating the German article.
 * Probably also need to state in an edit comment that 'Translating Tolkien' uses materials from Translating The Lord of the Rings, and to see there for attribution. Reason as above.
 * Again, I wrote my own text. I did copy parts of the citation templates for Nagel and adapted them, so I have attributed that.
 * I'd suggest you add an infobox, it's quite helpful for articles on people.
 * I am not good with infoboxes, but maybe I'll try one once I manage to work in the dates of birth and death (just received the original source, a very bare-bones death notice, not a proper obituary). It seems to be all there is; the maiden name at least has made it into some scholarly literature (like which I may need to add in)
 * I've added the birth name. I notice, doing that, that we need a brief note about her marriage to Mr. Carroux (and whether there were children).
 * Short description is too long, suggest just "German translator" (with dates).
 * Done.
 * Might be an idea to add 'Use British English' tag.
 * Done.
 * German wiki lists a few of the books (aka, famous authors) she translated. I guess this is optional but it does paint a much clearer picture of the work she did.
 * To do; I could try a comprehensive list and see if it overwhelms the article.
 * Not sure 'comprehensive' is either necessary or desirable; a German-style list illustrating the major novelists she translated would however be informative: I certainly found it so, reading the German article.
 * It might not even be achievable. But as you say, a more detailed listing would be quite informative; would you have expected that she translated David Attenborough? She translated quite a lot of both fiction and non-fiction and the only way to show her breadth is by making a list. I am trying to make a nearer list than dewiki's, but progress is slow: User:Kusma/sandbox/3 is what I managed this morning.
 * Should have been "neater list". I will continue with this and try to include at least all the books/authors mentioned in the main text (and perhaps not all of the others).
 * @Chiswick Chap, I added a fairly length list, currently sorted by date. Could be split into fiction/non-fiction. Let me know what you think. —Kusma (talk) 21:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I notice Nikita Khrushchev's memoirs are there. Did she translate this from Russian, or via English?
 * Good question, I will investigate.
 * From English; I think it was translated from Russian to English by Strobe Talbott.
 * her "sparkling brevity" in her use of language -> "the "sparkling brevity" of her use of language"


 * On the "study" in Sandfield Road, Tolkien writes in Letter 294 to Charlotte and Denis Plimmer, 8 February 1967: the cramped garage that he uses as a study (quoting a draft article for The Daily Telegraph Magazine by the Plimmers, in reply to them):


 * "May I say that it is not a 'study', except in domestic slang: in happier days I had one. It was a hastily contrived necessity, when I was obliged to relinquish my room in college and provide a store for what I could preserve of my library. ... my part-time secretary ... is the only regular user of the room. I have never written any literary matter in it. ... I am caught here in acute discomfort ...


 * If you wonder why I received you ... in such a hole, may I say that my house has no reception room but my wife's sitting-room, filled with her personal belongings. This was contemptuously described in the New Yorker (by a visitor), and we both suffered ridicule (and worse: commiseration) when this was quoted in the London papers. Since then she has refused to admit anybody but personal friends to the room."


 * You might want to use a bit of this as it explains why visitors like Carroux were received in the absurdly cold and unwelcoming garage room. It could be a footnote; at least a link to the source (you can use ... 294 .as above ) would be helpful.
 * Thank you, that's great! Will add this soon. Added a footnote.

BTW I added dates of birth and death from the original source, a death notice (not a full obituary) announcing her funeral for the same day. —Kusma (talk) 22:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Images

 * Lead image is non-free, has a suitable NFUR.
 * Other than a photo of Carroux in her study from the same article (let me know if you want a copy, BTW) it actually is the only image of her that I am aware of.
 * The image of the house is relevant and is now suitably captioned.
 * Indeed :)