Talk:Margaret Drummond (mistress)

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 * the Union of the Crowns would not have taken place and Scotland would have remained an independent country

Is it ok if I re-word this? Scotland did remain an independent country after the Union of the Crowns, remaining one until 1707 when both England and Scotland stopped being separate independent countries.


 * The idea that James had to be pressurised to marry Margaret Tudor is dubious, as Scotland was the less important country it is more likely that he pressurised Henry VII to give him his daughter.

I would also like to re-word or possibly remove this, Henry VII had just fought a war and installed a new dynasty on the throne of England and went out of his way to make friends (as mentioned in the Wikipedia article Henry VII of England) - with Spain (marrying his son to Spanish royalty), Scotland (marrying his daughter to Scottish royalty), and Maximilian I of the Holy Roman Empire.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Benson85 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


 * You can certainly re-word passages if you want, but I advise against removing anything much, and I don't think much needs to be changed. With the Union of the Crowns, what you are saying is correct, but the Union of the Crowns opened up a strong dynamic towards the Union of the Parliaments, with e.g. the Cromwellian military occupation.  We are dealing with how this might appear to some romantic historical novelists, not a rigorous analysis of the 1603-1707 period, which is outside the scope of this article. PatGallacher 08:56, 2005 August 26 (UTC)

Fictional portrayals section
I feel cautious about including a fictional portrayals section, since from what I have seen of them she figures as an important character in most fictional accounts of James IV, which have tended to repeat the legend about her death. PatGallacher (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Forgive me if this comes across as flippant, but you don't think this article should have such a section because it might become overly populated? AlistairMcMillan (talk) 00:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No, that's not the issue, but it could turn into a straight copy of the fictional portrayals of James IV, or pretty close to it. PatGallacher (talk) 02:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)