Talk:Maria Freudenstein

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Reference for Note #1 as:

1. Casino Royale - Chapter 2 "Dossier for M" - "Two weeks before, this memorandum had gone from Station S of the Secret Service to M, who was then and is today head of this adjunct to the British Defence Ministries." 2. Moonraker - Chapter 1 - "Secret Paper work" - "Loelia Ponsonby, Pricipal Secretary in the Ministry of Defence" 3. Moonraker - Chapter 4 - "The 'Shiner' - "Admiral Sir M -M-:something at the Ministry of Defence". 4. Moonraker - Chapter 4 - "The 'Shiner' - "Commander James Bond ...something at the Ministry of Defence". 5. Diamonds Are Forever - Chapter 3 -"Hot Ice" - "Afternoon, Sergeant..This is Commander Bond of the Ministry of Defence" 6. Thunderball - Chapter 1 - "Take it Easy, Mr Bond" - "That's not what the MO [Medical Officier] thinks". A Medical officier is a doctor in the British Army or Royal Navy. 7. The Spy Who Loved Me - Chapter 15 - "The Writing On My Heart" - "..you can get me [Bond]..c/o Ministry of Defence" 8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Chapter 6 - "Bond of Bond Street" - Bond said..."I am from the Ministry of Defence" 9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Chapter 8 - "Fancy cover" - "..Bond was employed by the Ministry of Defence." 10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Chapter 18 - "The Man from fish and AG" - "..respect those of the Ministry of Defence."M is telling the Ministry that he is subjected to the OSA. 11. You Only Live Twice - Chapter Obit. James Bond, employee of the Ministry of Defence. 12. You Only Live Twice - Chapter Obit second reference. Mary Goodnight says she has worked for Bond at the Ministry of Defence for three years. 13. The Man with the Golden Gun - two references to the Ministry of Defence in the first chaper. 14. The Property of a Lady - Bond tells the man at Sotherby's that he is from the Ministry of Defence. Perdogg (talk) 11:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The Secrect Service was part of the MoD at the time (thus MI standing for "military intelligence"). Your quote from chapter 1 even explicitly puts M as head of the secret service, which is describes as "an adjunct to the British Defence Ministries". - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 11:44, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

SIS (or MI6) has been part of the Foreign Ministry since the early 1920s, well before the Bond-era which was 1951. Please provide sourcing as to when Bond was ever employed by SIS. There isn't any. As you can see, I have sourced every statement in Fleming novels backing up that Bond worked for the MoD. His boss worked for MoD, his secretaries worked for MoD and his address was MoD, therefore he worked for MoD. Perdogg (talk)


 * Bond is employed by what Fleming called "the Secret Service". It's listed in most of the novels (and short stories) and I don't intend to quote from each and every one of them. Because of the legal secrecy surrounding SIS under well into the 1990s, many authors found it easier to fictionalise the organisation. Britain has never had a "Secret Service"—the nomenclature is fictional licence by Fleming. What the organisation does is (broadly) similar to what SIS (also known as MI6) is tasked to do. It's the same reason that Bond is given special permission by the PM to operate in England in Moonraker. He'd hardly need that if wasn't part and parcel of what is now MI6. - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 11:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)