Talk:Maria Pia of Savoy

Should be called of Savoy
She should be called of Savoy! I will request a move Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 01:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Maria Pia of Italy → Maria Pia of Savoy — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:47, 7 November 2010 (UTC) She was born a Princess of Savoy. Sources refer to her as this and it seems logical seeing as no one on Wikipedia has the name of Italy bar sovereigns Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 21:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose move on principle. You refer to "sources", but I don't see any references in the article in spite of the almost one year old tag at the top of the page. Sure, I could come to a conclusion by googling, but the impetus is on you to prove it should be moved, not others to prove it should stay where it is. Show me a reference section so I can browse to sources which show she was called Maria Pia of Savoy and then maybe... VictorianMutant (talk) 01:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Right =\


 * 1) Google books maria pia di savoia About 7,660 results
 * 2) google books maria pia of savoy About 1,630 results
 * 3) maria pia of savoy, queen of portugal About 408 results

Hmm, not a single one for of Italy =P Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 18:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Not common but: "The Head of the Royal House of Italy uses the title Duke of Savoy; the title of the heir may be Prince of Naples, Prince of Venice or Prince of Piedmont; by the family statute of 1 Jan 1890 the children of the King are and Heir Apparent are Royal Prince or Princess of Italy, Prince or Princess of Savoy and Royal Highness ; the nephews of the King and their descendants Prince or Princess of Savoy and Serene Highness. By an amendment to this statute dated 12 May 1946, the qualification of Royal Highness was extended to all members of the House." Seven Letters 21:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * But 1890 was after Maria Pia left the Italy (1862) and was styled as the Queen of Portugal . . one could argue that this was irrelevant to Maria Pia Prince LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 22:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - arguments above look pretty convincing, but what to do about the other Maria Pia of Savoy currently listed on the dab page?--Kotniski (talk) 13:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone else? Louis Philippe Charles (talk) 21:32, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Its been over seven days people! Louis Philippe Charles (talk) 20:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Initially I was cautious, there are several titles this person could be known by, and she was a princess of Italy for about a year. However every other Wikipedia I looked at, including the Italian and Portuguese, has her at Maria Pia of Savoy, suggesting that this is how she is generally known.  There is only one other person who might be known by this name, she was never a queen of anywhere and so is less important, she can be dealt with by a hatnote.  Where we have only 2 people of a name the margin of notability does not need to be very much for us to decide that one is the primary meaning. PatGallacher (talk) 11:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Any other views? LPC (talk) 17:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.