Talk:Marina Diamandis

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"...and a collaboration of other artists"
I removed this small fragment. The citation didn't state this. She is no more a collabration with other artists than any other singer/songwriter. Her music is supported by a band, but the are not "The Diamonds". She has been quoted in many places that she chose the stage name because it sounded cute. She is a solo artist, to suggest otherwise is misleading. --Footix2 (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing this up. When I expanded and cleared up the article in the week I was unsure as to whether or not she was solo or had, as you stated 'The Diamonds' in the same way as Florence and the Machine. Even 'The Guardian' was unsure when I was looking for the answer. Freshpop (talk) 18:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * She said she was marina and her fans were the diamonds Qwerty McQwertyuiop (talk) 20:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Middle name
Is her middle name really Lambrini or has it been added here 1st and propagated as fact? Anyone find an actual quote from the artist? Find it hard to believe she is named after a cheap wine. --Footix2 (talk) 18:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This information was added after it had appeared in the press. Thanks, Freshpop (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Lambrini is a Greek girl's name. She's quite likely not named after the wine, just like guys named John, Walker or Jim are usually not named after a whiskey. 62.152.162.199 (talk) 09:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Pronounciation
I can't see if the reference is valid due to bandwidth issues as it is a video, but the Διαμάντη would be.
 * I can't check either reference currently cited for the pronunciation as the link to each is dead now but based on my own experience as a child of Greek emigrants, I think the letter ν is pronounced even though it's part of a digraph. --anon. 71.183.139.60 (talk) 21:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Surname: "Diamandis" vs. Διαμάντη.
For me that looks like plain nonsense! For those who can read Greek, I'm sure you will agree if the name did end on a "s", there would be a small final sigma, this: ς. I mean, if there's no "s" in the Greek letters, there shouldn't be an "s" made up in the transliteration either! So the surname should be "Diamandi" even in Latin letters, and nothing with -s. My suspicion is that something might have been confused with the vocative (cf. vocative of Giorgos is Giorgo). -andy 217.50.57.107 (talk) 10:27, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's the same issue as Kalomira. I'll copy a reply from a discussion on her page and tailor it to Marina in this situation. Her father's last name is Diamandis (Διαμάντης in Greek characters), so his wife and daughters would normally take the genitive form of that name — Diamandi (Διαμάντη). However, it is known that immigrants into English-speaking countries in particular take on the same surname for all members of the family, regardless of gender, to avoid confusion and fit in with the culture and ways of the country they now live in, since there are generally no genitive forms of surnames in English-speaking countries. So in this case, Marina's surname would be Diamandis (however to Greeks she is known by the 'correct' Diamandi). So, to answer the question in short, no, her name should remain Diamandis on the English article. Greekboy (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahhh I forgot. Thank you very much. Yes that would indeed be her father's name for a girl, which occurred a little ... unusual (since I knew the score). But it's a bit like with Slavic women, Czech with German names like Richter for example, which will give the woman Richterová. However, in Germany they'd call her Frau Richter, and omit the -ová. -andy 77.7.122.184 (talk) 15:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Birthplace
She says her birthplace is Brynmawr in this interview, so the article might need to be changed. —Sesel (talk) 04:55, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(tat)
she dose not have a tattoo Ogomemnon (talk) 09:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Please make her name consistent in the article ...
... either call her "Marina and the Diamonds" or "Marina and The Diamonds". FDMS4 (talk) 10:39, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Her CDs and her drummer's bass drum list her name as Marina And The Diamonds. 107.181.107.82 (talk) 17:55, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Surname: Translation
Near the end of the second paragraph of the introduction, the article states, "Her stage name consists of Diamandis' first name and the translation of her surname, which means 'Diamonds' in Greek." This isn't completely accurate. The Greek word for diamonds (plural) is διαμάντια (except for the genitive). That is, the last letter of the word is alpha, not sigma.

Also, without a citation the statement in the article about this translation may qualify as original research even though it's common knowledge among speakers of Greek. --anon. 71.183.139.60 (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Nationality
I have changed it to British, as she was born in Wales. Greek-Welsh isn't a correct nationality, she is British. I keep see it being edited, but I would like to keep this article factual. It has further down the article that her dad is Greek, so it is pointless mentioning this in the introduction. Aimie Paige... x 22:55, 9 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luciefan (talk • contribs)

The page has now been locked and her nationality has been cast-ironed as "Welsh". Implying both of her parents are Welsh. Wouldn't "British" be a better description? 37.228.202.244 (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * She was born and raised in Wales. People born in the UK automatically get British nationality. And can be described along the lines of the four home nations. Many people have different ethnicities.That might be part of their cultural make-up, bit that does not change her nationality. That is different to elsewhere in Europe where nationality is often tied up with the origin of the parents.Karst (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You appear to be a hardcore Celtic nationalist, as you reject that Cornwall is in England (see what you did to Truro City F.C.) and reject that someone is Welsh if their father was born elsewhere. Welsh people with Greek ancestry are Welsh, the same as Welsh people with African ancestry (Ryan Giggs) or Indian (Neil Taylor (footballer)). There is no rule that someone needs to have X amount of Welsh ancestors to call themselves Welsh. &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

True, but Leona Lewis, who was born and raised in London, and has a father and mother of Guayanese and Welsh origin, respectively, whenever her nationality gets changed to "English", it always gets changed back to "British". 37.228.202.244 (talk) 22:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Editing
I'm requesting an edit protection, because throughout the history of the recent modifications made to this page, it does seem as though there are several cases skirting close to 'editing wars' which include undoing justified edits, which isn't at all constructive. Aimie Paige... x — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luciefan (talk • contribs) 23:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Please don't put sections part-way through existing sections. As to your request, Padlock-dash2.svg Not done: requests for increases to the page protection level should be made at Requests for page protection. -- Red rose64 (talk) 07:38, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Diamándis or Diamandí
Is her family name Diamándis or Diamandí? How should it be written in English and why is the Greek name Diamandí while the English one is Diamandis? [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marina_and_the_Diamonds&type=revision&diff=819034334&oldid=818887180 reverted] her name again in the Greek text to Diamandí.

If her name is Diamandí, then it should be spelled as such in English. If not, then the Greek spelling should conform with the English one. It's not a Greek Wikipedia and Arabic too has many rules that change the endings of words (names), but we ignore the rules here. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 14:52, 7 January 2018 (UTC)