Talk:Mario (franchise)

B-Class Review
I consider myself too involved to properly review it, so I'll leave that opportunity to someone more detached. Salvidrim!  23:27, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll take that as my cue, then. A-hem. Emmy   Altava  08:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

The Detached One ~ An Assessment
I'm going to be a bit subjective here by simple nature of the fact that there isn't anything I can truly go off of here with regards to expectations. At least within the realm of video games, no other series is so large (and/or milked) as Mario has been. So I'll be drawing from three articles: the Featured Article Final Fantasy (for its prominence and large size) and the Good Articles Metroid (for their shared publisher) and Dragon Quest (because a third title makes the list more poetic.)

To start with, I'm going to suggest the following. To the tune of The Whereabouts of Light. Oh, I'm dead serious about that last part. A/R has driven me insane.


 * Unassessed for months,
 * Nothing else compares,
 * So I've taken this chance, to begin review,
 * Currently at C,
 * Aspiring for GA,
 * I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you...
 * I'm maintaining C,
 * For the following:
 * Too many subheadings,
 * With too few details;
 * Sources appear off,
 * With a pinch of undue weight,
 * But nonetheless the length's above Start-class.
 * It's nothing personal, no,
 * But, you know.
 * Looking at the other articles~ (ar-ti-cles~)
 * Metroid is succinct,
 * As one might'nt think:
 * For more reasons than its
 * Shorter history,
 * Four easy sections, and
 * A brief list of titles,
 * (But here you should just link to that one list of them.)
 * Dragon Quest has more,
 * Both in games and lore,
 * Even with that fact, though,
 * It achieved GA,
 * Consider one reason,
 * Why that might be so:
 * It keeps the spin-offs listed in one place.
 * Honestly, I don't quite mind
 * (Not that much.)
 * But when it is,
 * Half of the whole page?
 * It's a concrete fact,
 * Someone will protest,
 * Having more subheadings,
 * Than you have of text,
 * GA or above,
 * Someone will soon give you hell,
 * It's better that you hear this news like this.~
 * (String solo... of assessment!)
 * Final Fantasy:
 * It beckons to thee,
 * Between all its titles,
 * And its tendency,
 * To be milked to heck
 * With tangential spinning-offs,
 * So I'd advise you study that one closely.
 * Overall it's fine
 * At C, where it is,
 * But to progress further,
 * Much more must be done:
 * Consider how the
 * Longest entry on the page,
 * Goes not to Donkey Kong but Hotel Mario.
 * Shorten other things,
 * But detail further games,
 * And soon you'll have the stuff of a Good Article.
 * At C, where it is,
 * But to progress further,
 * Much more must be done:
 * Consider how the
 * Longest entry on the page,
 * Goes not to Donkey Kong but Hotel Mario.
 * Shorten other things,
 * But detail further games,
 * And soon you'll have the stuff of a Good Article.

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And if you don't want to listen to my awesome song? Fine. tl;dr: Get rid of nearly all of the subsections and just give a few paragraphs to the plethora of spin-offs (e.g. everything that isn't Super Mario), put less emphasis on the Hudson titles and the CD-i game that isn't Hotel Mario, condense the 'comics' and 'television' sections a tad, lengthen the 'merchandise' section, and pimp out the 'impact' section as masterfully as you can. Again, look at Final Fantasy if it helps - odd as it is, that's probably the closest thing to Mario that the site has as a quality article. Emmy  Altava  08:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Mario & Luigi series logo.
Could someone add the Mario & Luigi series logo just like the Paper Mario series logo above on the page? I'm not able to add simple images like that, so it would be greatly appreciated if anyone could do that. Thanks! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 20:27, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Protection?
Hey,

Was thinking that this page and the Super Mario page should get semi protection like the Nintendo and Legend of Zelda pages have. Anybody know how we can request it? -Peterjack1

Spliting Dr. Mario series
The latest game in the Dr. Mario series, Dr. Mario World, was released in 2019. However, this needs to splitting into the new article. Longplay Watcher (talk) 11:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

DK as a part of Mario franchise?
There's an issue raised at List of best-selling video game franchises that should probably also be addressed here. Namely there's been edits whether the Donkey Kong series is part of the Mario franchise, simply because the first DK game included Mario. That feels like OR unless its clear Nintendo or the media at large considers that to be the case.

To show an example of where recent media does NOT include DK as a Mario game, this IGN article from 2019 talks about the Mario franchise -less Super Mario Run - had 620 million games sold at Nov 2019. Using the figures at the List of franchises table near the same time, the total 700 M there includes the 60M that are coming from the DK franchise and ~15M from the first DK game + ports. That is, IGN does not appear to be considering DK as a Mario game. While its hard to find others that collaborate this, we probably should not be going too far off what IGN reports.

Yes, Donkey Kong needs to be mentioned in the franchise history, but it should not be taken as a part of the Mario franchise. --M asem (t) 23:41, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Basically why DK is counted as Mario is because that is where both started with the original arcade title. Also later titles such as donkey kong Jr. and 3 also keep the two together because of the fact is the same characters also 94.  Now stopping there is fine but some people count the country games and the rest of the DK games because of certain characters (Kranky Kong because he is the original donkey kong) so that is why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.165.67 (talk • contribs)

So what i suggest is this take the sales for the original trilogy, donkey kong 94 and any others that fall into the traditional donkey kong area and count them as both DK and Mario games

So that would be ones such as mario vs. donkey kong series

Mario = Japanese franchise?
I'm not to stir up controversy or anything like that but the Mario franchise did originate in Japan. Wouldn't that mean that the franchise is technically Japanese? Leader Vladimir (talk) 23:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Some offshoot Mario series:
I’m just making a suggestion, but the Mario Bros. series is a thing and the Mario Artist series is also a thing. Hackecas001 (talk) 00:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)


 * We already have an article for the Mario Artist games. However, this article is covering the games that have the most significance to the franchise as a whole (or have notable coverage), and this article is not merely listing every Mario ever made. Mario Artist is not as significant as the other games, so it's not listed here. And Mario Bros. is already mentioned in this article, so I don't understand what your question was there. ThomasO1989 (talk) 00:38, 2 December 2022 (UTC)