Talk:Mario Kart/Archive 1

wrong?
This article states "In every Mario Kart game with the exclusion of Mario Kart Wii, there has been at least one beach stage". But I am pretty sure that the Wii version actually does include a beach stage. It is one of the retro stages from the SNES of GBA version. But still, saying that it doesn't is clearly wrong.

It is actually from GameCube not Game Boy Advance. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 03:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC).

Copy-cats?
This page should mention all of the mario kart rip offs. Theres crash, smurfs, antz, toy story, pacman... almost every developer trys to cash in on the success of mario kart and it kinda ticks me off. this page should mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.100.129 (talk) 01:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

WiFi Hacking
I am not a particularly good writer, so I'll just provide the ground information and leave the actual editting of the article to someone better suited than I.

The first known instance of Nintendo's DS games being hacked online occured in mid-December, 2005 by a hacker from GSCentral (http://www.gscentral.org) known as Parasyte. The hack allows several courses that were previously available off-line only to be played on-line. These courses include Banshee Boardwalk and Airship Fortress. Rumors abound about supposed side-effects of playing online with Parasyte, including game data being erased, the game crashing, and massive losses being added to the user's record. However all these claims have been proven to be false. Despite this, the rumors still spread.

Links: http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=759 Hacking discussion begins on page 3; http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=764 Low quality video of hacked course being played online: http://mmii.info/misc/ticktockclockwifi.avi

Too many tracks?
The "tracks" section of the article was made to give information about re-occuring tracks in the Mario Kart series, such as Rainbow Road and Bowser Castle. Now, with twelve track-types listed, I think the list is getting too long. The purpose of the section is not to list every Mario Kart track-type that ever existed. I intend to remove some, if anyone disagrees discuss here. The- 16:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I have now removed "Dirt-road tracks", "Jungles" and "Mud tracks". If anyone disagrees discuss here. The- 17:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

While I'm fine with the removal of Dirt Road and Mud Tracks, there are enough instances of Jungle Tracks (in 4 of the games if IIRC) for it to be mentionable. --ACE Spark 15:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I would consider cutting the "recurring tracks" down to Circuits, Bowser Castles and Rainbow Road, because these tracks tend to have the greatest game influence (the first or last track in GP's). --MaskedSheik 18:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I love how Wikipedia itches to remove as much information as possible —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.60.50 (talk) 02:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

MK64
The Mario Kart 64 section needs cleanup. 68.194.16.14 23:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC) There must be a discussion about the different abilities of the characters. Heavyweights such as Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser are less maneuverable and accelerate more slowly, but what they lack there they make up for in body mass. These characters, and even yoshi and mario, can "body" (collide with) smaller characters and take away balloons that way, no weapon needed. I would also like to see a mention of the welfare system in the races. If you are in last place you are likely to get powerful items such as lightning or triple red shells, but in first you would not get such items. The item is truly given randomly only in battle mode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rarichter (talk • contribs).
 * Balloons are not popped. They are simply detached from the kart.

Critical Acclaim
As of 23 May 2006, the article states, "To this date, gamers consider these games inferior to the Mario Kart titles, Diddy Kong Racing being the only title to gain a similar volume of critical acclaim in addition to a large fanbase."

Is this really correct? I'd certainly argue that Crash Team Racing has also received similar critical acclaim to the Mario Kart series. For instance, video game review aggregator GameRankings.com has Crash Team Racing with an average review score of 92%. , which is comparable to Mario Kart DS's 92%, Mario Kart Super Circuit's 92%  , Mario Kart Double Dash's 87%  , and Super Mario Kart's 93%.

On another review aggregator, Metacritic, Crash Team Racing has a score of 88, fairly similar to Double Dash's 87  , Mario Kart DS's 92  , Mario Kart 64's 83  , and Super Circuit's 93.

Is it appropriate to say, then, that Diddy Kong Racing is the only kart racing to gain critical acclaim similar to the Mario Kart series? Kuribosshoe 05:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wait, does half of this stuff actually need to be in the article?
Just to take a few examples, items and battle modes are explained in the individual game articles as well as here. Does anyone else think that this article should be about Mario Kart in general rather than an explanation of every feature in every game? -- Steel 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. The article should talk about the conception of the game series, from where the idea was picked, the commercial achievements, the storyline of the different games, the technological advances between each other, why the items were chosen, etc. In other words, this article is about the series, not the games, thus information found in the other articles should be kept in those articles. -- ReyBrujo 03:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Having being the one to suggest these changes, it's a bit annoying having to ask this, but where would we find that kind of information? I guess commercial achievements wouldn't be too hard to find, but the rest (if it is indeed available on the web) would be buried under hundreds of Mario Kart DS fansites and the like. -- Steel 23:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That is the hard part of writing articles. For one side, we have information that everybody knows. For the other, we have detailed information that is not known. I believe every Nintendo fan knows what is Mario Kart about, but very few know how was that Miyamoto (or the original designer) came with this idea. Articles should have varied information, and cover as much about the topic as possible. Just ask yourself a question: what the casual reader needs to know? That is the basic information for the article. And the next question, what a knowledgeable reader needs to know? That is the expanded information, which is usually harder to come by. -- ReyBrujo 01:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Mario Kart Arcade GP 2
According to http://themushroomkingdom.net/news.shtml#9800, this game has been recently anounced. Waluigi and a character from the Tamagotchi series will be new characters to the series. A flyer was released to confirm the game, although no release date has been anounced. Should I add this? User:MariofanDS,2:35, 17 October 2006.

Racing to the Moon
What is Mario Kart: Racing to the Moon? I do not see any sources indicating it actually exists, and a quick yahoo and google search brought up nothing.

141.153.175.50 21:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC) February 18th, 2007

It's either a hack, or it doesn't exist75.67.128.65 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Do MKDS retro tracks count?
I notice a the tracks section seems to count MKDS retro tracks as part as MKDS. For example, untill a few minutes ago, it said that MKDS has two snow tracks, but of course it only has one, Frappe Snowland is an MK64 track not an MKDS track. They are not unique to MKDS, they are borrowed from retro games. Furthermore, the retro tracks in MKSC are not counted, which means the MKDS retro tracks shouldn't be counted either. Why should the MKDS retro tracks count but not the MKSC retro tracks, they are both tracks that are borrowed from previous MK games, what's the differece? If the MKDS retro tracks are added back in, then the MKSC tracks must also be added in. I think they shouldn't be put in, as they are not unique to the game they are borrowed from previous games, and I will revert any unexplained attempts to put them back in. The- 18:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Where the hell did you get the idea that if the track is not unique to the game that it shouldn't be included? if it's in the game it should be listed what you're saying is to remove the name of a track that is in the game from the games list of tracks? not to smart...SuperWiki5 23:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You do realize that you're replying to a four-month-old comment, right? --Stratadrake 01:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * yeah i do, and your point?SuperWiki5 13:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Only that it hasn't been discussed in a long time, so it isn't a point of any real dispute. --Stratadrake 00:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Waluigi?
is in the game by nds? wow, i didnt know that, i have the game and he's not available.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.45.111.69 (talk) 13:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC).


 * You mean Mario Kart DS? You have to unlock him in that. Hardcore gamer 48 10:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * He's available after finishing lightning cup in 100ccm;-).

What Happened To This Page?
last time I looked on this page, it included a whole topic on game modes. which was completely taken away and information from it was randomly placed throughout the article. I think this change should be erased, and the article should go back to hte way it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xosder43 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

"Recurring tracks" -- listcruft?
Looking through the article, I noticed this section. Now, I'd be fine with keeping that part of the article, had it not been so long. Really, the only things that should be mentioned are the Bowser tracks, Rainbow Road tracks and possibly the Circuits in a brief paragraph or two. Maybe all the recurring themes could be mentioned, provided not all the track names are mentioned and there really is more than just one kind of these raceways. The fact that "Clocks" (which I promptly removed, as it only mentions one track) and "Fairground" (which really only consists of one track listed twice) made it in makes me think it's just meant to be a section where all the raceways in the Mario Kart series are listed. I won't do any heavy editting just yet; I'd like to hear others opinions on the matter first. ^_^ Hardcore gamer 48 10:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, in my opinion, the name speaks for itself. It should be a section on the most recurring themes in the games. I think the Bowser Castles, Beaches (it does appear frequently, right? I know at least each console game had one), Circuits, and Rainbow Roads should be the only things mentioned, unless there is another high frequency theme that I am forgetting. -- Luigi Maniac  12:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That sounds fair enough. Also, the "haunted" levels appeared in each game, I believe. Hardcore gamer 48 09:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Why did snow tracks get removed? There's been one of those in every game too.  The recurring track themes seem notable but there ARE a lot of them... maybe a seperate article should be used?  I dunno. Jez MM (talk) 01:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Sixteen-way gameplay?
Have there actually been any sixteen-way mario kart games? --Muzer 19:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * which console allows 16-way, i know on ds you can have 8 players 12v34v56v78 via lan 211.26.46.174 08:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Simple question
When was simply Mario Kart released? 124.181.54.218 12:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * See Super Mario Kart, the original SNES game. --Stratadrake 01:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Sherbet land
Why are there two sherbet lands? (one in MK64 and the other in MKDD) --82.207.191.139 18:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well im not pertty sure why nintendo did that all is known that there both different courses --The luigi kart assasions 9:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Mario Kart Mario Kart?
In the table of playable drivers there is Mario Kart Mario Kart as header (all players are playable). What is Mario Kart Mario Kart?
 * Revert fodder. :) --Stratadrake 16:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyway, Kirby isn't playable in SMK or MKDD. --82.207.190.166 20:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Color?
The names look better in different colors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javier12345 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you saying that the coloring was purely decorative? I don't know about everyone else, but for me it made reading more difficult. Dancter 21:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Even more drivers?
Are Daisy, Toadette and Bowser jr. (and the Pac-Man family) really available in MKWii? --82.207.190.32 09:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe but it's not known yet. There was some internet gossip that they might be available but that was purely based on box art from MK Arcade.  MLA 12:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone put Sonic the Hedgehog, Lanky Kong, Neo Metal Sonic, Stanley the Talking Fish, Vector the Crocodile. I assume this is complete bs? 66.169.188.254 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You assume correct. This is going to keep happening, unfortunately, unless we get some form of protection on this article. = / Hardcore gamer 48 03:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Let's limit the playable characters to only those easily confirmed in official screenshots, trailers, etc. In other words...

IGN screenshots prominently show:
 * Bowser
 * Mario
 * Peach
 * Wario
 * Waluigi

IGN's vid of the E3 announcement shows:
 * Baby Mario
 * Luigi
 * Toad
 * Yoshi

But somebody lend me a hand here, my PC's onboard video sucks and can't even manage 1 sec/frame on the 640x480 vid. --Stratadrake 22:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Will we need protection for this article?
It seems like random IP addresses are coming on here lately and stuffing around with the Playable Characters table. I know that this isn't an isolated problem, but this is just going to keep on happening if something isn't done (considering people are actually finding the new Mario Kart to be exciting, and will want to put in the characters they want in the game). I won't request protection yet, in case others don't agree with me. Hardcore gamer 48 13:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * We need protection in this page. Many random IP adresses are changing all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javier12345 (talk • contribs) 15:32, August 12, 2007 (UTC)
 * Protect this, yes. The vandalism is effecting other Wikis, like MarioWiki, and it is causing confusion among many Users. Poke DP 11:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Requesting now. --Stratadrake 04:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * RFP verdict was 'no' on account of constructive edits by anons. --Stratadrake 00:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Table formatting?
Since many characters in the series are exclusive to one or two games (especially the Namco exclusives), approximately half of this table is filled with. I find this distracting, so I'm going to ask if the table will look better if we just leave those spaces blank rather than specifically saying "no". After all, there's for every character who does appear in a game, "?" for unknown possibilities in MKW, so anything else is a "no" by default.

Please compare the two and tell me what you guys think: --Stratadrake 03:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC) i think u guys should put the pacman people at the botom also i removed donkey kong jr cuz dk jr is the same person as donkey kong with the tie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.64.181 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152838653
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152837890

Stop adding characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daisy, Baby Luigi and Koopa Troopa have not been confirmed so dont add them!!!!!!! (As if anyone would care) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC) Now Koopa Troopa and Baby Luigi are confirmed, but not Daisy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.163.39.74 (talk) 23:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC) Daisy is confirmed. -&#91;The-DC&#93;- (talk) 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Question
In the table the section "Recurring tracks" is located on the left, with a blank gray space on the right. Is it supposed to like this, is is my browser, or is it a coding mistake?

Thanks, Codelyoko193 (T/C) 21:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Thanks, Codelyoko193 (T/C) 23:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Legacy Section?
Should there be a Legacy section here as Mario Kart inspired many racing games from different franchises? Gamer3004 16:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Pac-Man
I caught a screenshot of many characters in Mario Kart Wii and Pac-Man was one of them. This is unconfirmed, but something you guys should look into. -TheDenzel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.17.49.6 (talk) 04:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

New Characters
Has there been any new character confirmed?201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Waluigi
Ia Waluigi from the Wario series or from the Mario series, in Super Smash Bros. Brawl he is marked as being from the Mario series.?201.163.39.74 (talk)

Removal of Mario Kart GP games
I belive that the 2 Mario Kart GP game should be rmoved from anything listing the games in the Mario Kart series. Nintendo was no involved, they are arcade games, and they have nothing to do wiht the Mario Kart series. The articles should remain, but in, say, the list of characters in Mario Kart games, the Mario Kart GP characters should be removed. Characters such as the tomagatchi guy, Pac-Man, and Mrs. Pac-Man.Igglybuff63 (talk) 01:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe not removed, but I agree they have nothing to do with the Mario Kart Series.201.163.39.74 (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should make a seperate table for the characters, and make a seperate article for the GP games, not including them the regular mario kart article. we could put the other table in the GP article.Igglybuff63 (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats a good idea.201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I dont have time on my hands to do thi, though. it would be great if someone else could change it. Igglybuff63 (talk) 23:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, they are nothing to do with it, i'll do a seperate table now, edit it out if you like. - Dancingcyberman 14:59, 14 March 2008 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancingcyberman (talk • contribs)

I'm not going to lie. That is the WORST IDEA I HAVE EVER HEARD. LIKE IT OR NOT, THE MARIO KART ARCADE GAMES ARE PART OF THE SERIES. YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT. Nothing to do with the mario kart series. You DIMWITS! PS SORRY FOR THE INSULT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.57.55.222 (talk) 16:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, i kinda agree with this dude. MKAGP1 had HUGE popularity when it first hit the game centers over her i japan. as for separating or deleting this, i think it should simply be classified as another topic.Iamstd2 (talk) 07:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Donkey Kong Jr.
I just added this character back to the character list. The excuse that he and DK are the same characters doesn't work here. If we go by this logic, then Baby Mario and Baby Luigi should be removed as well. Axemblue4 (talk)
 * but the thing is that they showed is dk jr grew up...so unless its dk AND dk jr then leave it alone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.64.181 (talk) 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

No, just no. They never showed DK Jr. growing up. Their names are different, and their appearances are different. And it has never been confirmed in-game that they are the same. What logic are you going by? Axemblue4 (talk) Yeah...In fact, it now seems DK Jr. is DK's DAD, or maybe an Uncle?

Cranky Kong is DK's Grandad Donkey Kong is DK Jr's Dad Cranky Kong is Donkey Kong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.254.176 (talk) 22:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Donkey Kong Jr. is also in Mario Kart Wii, after you won all races in 50ccm he will be available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.212.1 (talk) 18:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

You guys are all idiots. His name is Diddy Kong!--Iamstd2 (talk) 07:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Boo in Mario Kart: Double Dash?
As far as I know Boo is not a playable character in Mario Kart: Double Dash. I own the game and am pretty sure that Boo is just an item. King Boo on the other hand is a playable character in the game but is a completely different character and is also listed here. If I am correct, this would also change the Mario Kart Wii page which says "Making his second playable appearance in the Mario Kart series is Boo". —User: (talk • contribs • count • [ logs ]) 04:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I too am an owner of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and have unlocked everything in the game. It is safe to say that Boo is not playable. He is only in the game as an item. Sure, King Boo is playable, but he is an entirely different character. I noticed that Boo being in MK:DD!! was added to this page by an anonymous user, so it was most likely vandalism that was taken too far, when it was added to the Mario Kart Wii page. I'll take the opprotunity now and correct both pages. Volker89 (talk) 20:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's good to see I'm not going crazy. —User: (talk • contribs • count • [ logs ]) 18:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Baby Boo
I just deleted him. Also, there's ALOT of characters listed as YES for MKW when there's NO proof of their appaerance!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 23:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandals
Every time i turn around people are adding characters like Baby Boo, Sonic, Toadsworth, etc. for MKW. And EVERY character will be checked as yes! Can we please semi-protect the article?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 16:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Has Baby DK, or Baby Peach been confirmed? Untill then, i'm removing them!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing Pac-Man from Mario Kart Wii
Someone put a checkmark for Pac-Man in MKWii.... I am assuming this is just vandalism in light of some of the comments here and since I can find absolutely no proof of it. Edit: Actually, now I notice several more characters added... I move that this page be protected.

Removing: Baby Donkey Kong Pac-Man (from Wii version) Paper Mario Professor E. Gadd Maybe R.O.B. from the Wii version... need to do some research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SirVenom (talk • contribs) 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read "Vandals" about semi-protection!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ugh, while trying to revert the vandalism, I got caught in an edit conflict with ANOTHER vandal. I might check that page, but I have little time for these things.SirVenom (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, the vandal is repeatedly submitted the edit to revert our changes.... the culprit is 208.70.44.60 SirVenom (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...Same happened to me!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection (PLEASE READ)
CAN WE PLEASE!? An unregistered user keeps checking YES for ALL characters on MKW, and adding Sonic, Baby DK, E Gadd, Paper Mario, Dixie, Toadsworth, etc.SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

So, IGN's the culprit yet again...

http://boards.ign.com/mario_kart/b5984/159246992/p1/

Rumours...How they start...SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 22:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

And i figured out how Baby Boo started, a magazine stated "Baby Peach, and Boo are playable." Perhaps the n00bs mistaked it as Baby Boo?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 22:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I keep trying to fix it, but once i finish editing it back up, they put the character template in random place's, add comic book characters and tick all of the characters. - Dancingcyberman 19:54, 14 March 2008 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancingcyberman (talk • contribs)

The Character List
Why does it keep moving around the page, the likes of Sonic and Toadsworth getting entered and ticks for most characters including Donkey Kong Junior? I was in the middle of making 2 seperate templates (One for the Main series, and one for the Arcade one) when i see that the whole page has been vandalised. Help? -&#91;The-DC&#93;- (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Who the Hell moved the list around? Someone put Nikoo in there. Who the hell is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.161.227 (talk) 01:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it, all characters unconfirmed now have question marks and unconfirmed newcomers have been removed. I shall keep an eye on this topic. -&#91;The-DC&#93;- (talk) 11:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone really needs to lock this page from editing. The same thing happened in the Super Smash Bros. series page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.161.227 (talk) 20:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Nikoo still appears on the page, and there is a X on Birdo. Dixie Kong is also there with a tick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.49.187.208 (talk) 23:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

...Did you guys by any chance...I dunno...scroll up a few cms.? Not that hard. ;)SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 01:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Note to everyone, don't tick or untick a character intill they've been confirmed/unconfirmed. -&#91;The-DC&#93;- (talk) 19:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

That's no help. The noobs who keep vandalising still vandalize. Besides, most of them don't know what a talk page is...SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 17:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Man, I came here to see what the new characters were for the new game. I clicked "List of Mario Kart characters" in the Mario Kart Wii article, but... there's no list here. Just a note that says "malteser is a playable character." What the heck? 69.218.77.109 (talk) 11:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

We need to lock this page! If you don't, people are going to keep vandalizing this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.222.72 (talk) 20:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Um, yeah, now there's a "Characters" section but it's totally blank. What kind of a retarded joke is this?69.218.77.109 (talk) 12:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

OMFG! The character list is in the references and its in non-alphabetical order and the Arcade characters have been readded. -&#91;The-DC&#93;- (talk) 17:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Why not report this to the HQ guys?--Iamstd2 (talk) 07:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete
Since noone will semi-protect the article, i'm deleting it, and will COMPLETELY start it over WHILE having protected from ALL EDITING!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 18:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What the hell is wrong with you people don't you people watch this page. What happened to the Mii on the list and the other ones some-one better fix this because I'm sick and tired of doing it.--Lbrun12415 23:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry that we don't spend every waking moment on Wikipedia. >_> The site doesn't need vandalism reverted right away, it's no biggie. Someone will get to it eventually if you don't. Ace of Jokers (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

It's pathetic that you guys don't care!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 03:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * How is it pathetic? It's only Wikipedia. Nothing bad will happen if people can't immediately get to vandalism. >_> Ace of Jokers (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

here is anouther link
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmcj/character/$$Insert formula here$$  --Lbrun12415 19:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection
I have protected the page for one week - please sort out the differences that have lead to the recent edit war on the talk page. I will be looking into the history of the contributions and will be handing out any appropriate warnings for any inappropriate behaviour. GBT/C 17:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Birdo
When was Birdo confirmed???Javier12345 (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * She hasn't been. Unfortunately due to others acting childishly, someone took the liberty to block everyone from editting the page for a week, so currently we can't rectify that. While we're on the subject of the character list; would Baby Peach be considered a Mario character or a Yoshi character? (To be honest, I consider all Yoshi, Wario and DK characters as Mario characters, but clearly not everyone else does.) Ace of Jokers (talk) 04:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * With all due respect there should only be 19 checks one for Rosealina one for Mii and other 12 from this site right here http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmcj/character/index.html .--Lbrun12415 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC).

--Lbrun12415 18:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unlockables


 * Daisy - Middle Weight
 * Rosealina - Middle Weight
 * Diddy Kong - Middle Weight
 * Baby Luigi - Light Weight
 * Toadette - Light Weight
 * Boo - Heavy Weight
 * Mii - Middle Weight
 * Playable


 * Mario
 * Luigi
 * Toad
 * Koopa Troopa
 * Peach
 * Yoshi
 * Baby Mario
 * Baby Peach
 * Wario
 * Waluigi
 * Bowser
 * Dk

King Boo, not the lame small cowardly ones that try to hide every time you look at them. Shame on you to make that mistake!--Iamstd2 (talk) 07:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit protected request
(Copied from my talk page as I'm currently on my non-admin account) The public face of GBT/C 12:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

If you don't mind can you please fix the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Kart#Playable_characters to this one
 * {| class="wikitable sortable"

!Racer!!Super Mario Kart!!Mario Kart 64!!Mario Kart Super Circuit!!Mario Kart: Double Dash!!Mario Kart DS!!''Mario Kart Wii!!Series


 * Baby Luigi||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * Baby Mario||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * Baby Peach||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * Birdo||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Boo||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Bowser||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Bowser Jr.||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Daisy||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Diddy Kong||||||||||||
 * Donkey Kong
 * Donkey Kong||||||||||||
 * Donkey Kong
 * DK Jr.||||||||||||?||Donkey Kong
 * Dry Bones||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * King Boo||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Koopa Troopa||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Luigi||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Mario||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Mii||||||||||||
 * Wii series/Mii Channel
 * Paratroopa||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Peach||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Petey Piranha||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * R.O.B.||||||||||||?
 * Robot/NES accessory 
 * Rosalina||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Shy Guy||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Toad||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Toadette||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Waluigi||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Wario||||||||||||
 * Wario
 * Yoshi||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * }
 * Petey Piranha||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * R.O.B.||||||||||||?
 * Robot/NES accessory 
 * Rosalina||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Shy Guy||||||||||||?
 * Mario
 * Toad||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Toadette||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Waluigi||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Wario||||||||||||
 * Wario
 * Yoshi||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * }
 * Waluigi||||||||||||
 * Mario
 * Wario||||||||||||
 * Wario
 * Yoshi||||||||||||
 * Yoshi
 * }
 * Yoshi
 * }

Ummm...it's the same?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 22:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ummm... no it's not. Ace of Jokers (talk) 08:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

...WTF am i missing here?...SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 22:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * One change I can see is that Birdo was changed to ? from under the Wii section. -- RattleMan 22:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Or, alternatively, you could remove the entire table as Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I won't do anything so drastic, but I'd recommend it when the protection expires. Happy‑melon 15:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Umm No the table stays. If its gone people would start to list every thing.--Lbrun12415 15:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

only 24 PC and no more
http://gonintendo.com/?p=37015 .--Lbrun12415 18:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't exactly trust that site after Baby Birdo...

[image=http://www.sonicstadium.org/imagebin/games/screens/mariosonic/021.jpg]

SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 20:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact is that there are only 24 PC the person who said there was 48 confessed and said he was lying on Nintendo.com it also sates "Play with 24 PC 12 you get from the start and the rest you unlock".--Lbrun12415 22:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * http://nsider2.com/forums/I-have-received-my-reviewer-s-copy-t165974.html .--Lbrun12415 22:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh noes!!!! (Slaps head.) Why am I so gulible?...SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 00:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Character confirmations
Have Birdo, Dry Bones and King Boo confirmed? If not, why are they on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.44.132.63 (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the list its about all generation and don't add stuff on there thats not true if you do it again you'll be blocked.--Lbrun12415 20:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Now, I haven't seen pictorial evidence yet, but every single Mario Kart website I've visited has mentioned that Birdo IS playable. Lbrun, are you SURE s/he's not? --HeroicJay, not signed in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.73 (talk) 19:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Is this link enough evidence? I believe it shows Dry Bowser and Baby Daisy, correct me if I'm mistaken. I'll try to dig up more pitures I can find. (EDIT) Here's a small pic of Birdo...people say its her...they found it on a video showing the credits screen of MKW.http://i32.tinypic.com/16m7ezd.png http://picasaweb.google.com/gohanrice/MarioKartWii/photo#5187034508169902434(EDIT 2) Last pic, shows all the playable characters. I think it's a congratulations picture sent to the Wii Message Board. http://picasaweb.google.com/gohanrice/MarioKartWii/photo#5187101595559066082

AmFlip25 (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Game appearences
On the character list, instead of game series, maybe instead replace it with the character's first appearence and year? -&#91;The-DC&#93;-

(talk) 19:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd say that we don't even need the series/original appearance. Characters like Baby Mario and Baby Luigi fluctuate from series to series a lot, so it's kind of confusing. The other tables don't list character's first appearances, either, so... Ace of Jokers (talk) 10:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. Also, what happed to the Pac-Man characters? --(trogga) 16:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, I didn't even notice the arcade games were missing until you mentioned it. They're added again now, thanks! Ace of Jokers (talk) 06:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

A bit dry?
Isn't it SKELETAL Bowser? SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope. Actually called that in the game. GaeMFreeK (talk) 07:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Arcade GP separation
I think it would be better if the Arcade GP games were put in their own section and mentions of them struck from when the games are compared together. They're really not "official" Mario Kart games and when people think Mario Kart, they think SMK-64-SC-DD-DS-Wii and not many people have even heard of the Arcade GP games.

They were a third-party joint venture that weren't even on Nintendo consoles and it's obvious that they've strayed a little too far from the main games to be considered part of the whole group. Maybe turn them into a subseries?

GaeMFreeK (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that I agree. The Arcade games are still a part of the series, regardless if people have heard of them before or not. What do you call "official"? Games one can play at home? Games made solely by Nintendo? I'm not sure it's worth splitting a subseries into another subseries... though, I'll concede that the character roster looks a lot neater without the GP games there. Ace of Jokers (talk) 20:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

"One for every console since the SNES era"
In the intro paragraph, it had been stated that At least one Mario Kart game has been released for every Nintendo console since the SNES era. The original Super Mario Kart was released in 1992, however NES games had been developed by Nintendo up until 1994 and original Game Boy/Game Boy Color games were developed far beyond this. There were no incarnations of Mario Kart for either of these systems... and lets not the Virtual Boy. As such, I deleted the statement... I tried to rework it, but adding exceptions just made it seem trite, especially since the following sentence goes on to explain To date, there have been four Mario Kart games for home consoles, two portable games, and two arcade games. Zippo (talk) 18:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Ultra Mario Kart?
What is Ultra Mario Kart i've never heard of it nor is there any info about it. Just asked before some one deletes the referance on the table.T18 (talk)T18 —Preceding comment was added at 13:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Playable Characters
What happened to the characters table? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.127.159 (talk) 05:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's really useful. Is there any way it can be brought back?? 69.0.74.119 (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to standize the list after a discussion, we continue to see colums removed then re added over and over.T18 (talk) 19:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I think something should be said for each of the characters what weight class they are in each game. --PJ Pete July 31, 2007 22:56

waluigi in super circuit
I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Waluigi can be unlocked in Mario Kart Super Circuit when you come first in all of the cups (extra cups included). I noticed that in that table of playable characters it said that he wasn't in mksc. So I am now confused. Is it possible to unlock him in mksc? --Brontesaurus (talk) 11:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

For the last time - no —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasgx1 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

wii play
where do i find the 12 digit code to play online with my friends any help please many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.170.120 (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Arcade
I suggest that we split the series into two, the buyable games (Main Series) and then the two arcade games listed seperatly. What do you guys say?IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 05:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

NO MEANS NO!!

Idiotic idea! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.57.55.222 (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Waluigi
Why is Waluigi being listed as a main character? He has appeared no more frequently than Daisy, who is listed as a side character. I personally think that he has even less of a history than Daisy or several other side characters as he's never even really been in a mainstream (actual storyline) Mario game. Perhaps he should be moved to side characters? Raspheba555 (talk) 11:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly what i was thinking.9legoboy9 (talk) 18:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)9legoboy9


 * He's appeared in 4 of the last 5 games, and the last 3 games in a row. Daisy has only appeared in 3 games, one less, and none of them in a row. Also, none of the side characters have appeared in two games in a row. There all random and around the place, although if daisy is in the next game i think that constitutes as her moving up the ranks. IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 04:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)