Talk:Mario Kart: Double Dash

Tracks
The Track Section is needless game guide information. It serves no real purpose here. I'm removing it. DurinsBane87 (talk) 18:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Reception
The following two phrases should be removed from the article:

1) "It has sold approximately 4.67 million copies worldwide" 2) "In the United States, the game was the seventh best-selling Nintendo GameCube title as of October 2006, according to the NPD Group."

Neither of these phrases are accurate.

The article accurately states that Double Dash sold 3.8 million in North America and accurately states that it sold an additional 802,000 in Japan. The assessment that the game "has sold approximately 4.67 million copies worldwide", however, is not accurate. The 4.67 million figure was obviously obtained by adding the North American and Japanese sales numbers together. This number clearly doesn't take into account sales figures from Europe or other territories, and suggesting that the 4.67 million figure represents "worldwide" sales is not accurate. Therefore, the sentence "It has sold approximately 4.67 million copies worldwide" should be removed from the article.

The article also suggests that game was the seventh best-selling Nintendo GameCube title as of October 2006. The link provided suggests that the game was the seventh best-selling game IN October 2006. It does not, however, suggest that the game was the best selling game AS OF October 2006. These are two completely different things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoolioMcAwesome (talk • contribs) 16:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Misc
Two small quarms, firstly it says followed by the console releases of mkds and wii. Last I checked I thought the DS was a handheld gaming device, not a console.

Also someone has written (and cited?) that the power slide technique was improved on its predecessors. Umm, surely thats opinion as I personally prefer mk64s mt'ing. I would like to it change to re-invented? (not hopping into an mt) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasgx1 (talk • contribs) 21 April 2009

Title
Is there a specific reason why the article's title uses "‼" (two exclamation marks in a single character) instead of !! (two exclamation marks as two separate characters)? Salvidrim!  20:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:29, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Mario Kart: Double Dash‼ → Mario Kart: Double Dash!! –

Changing ‼ to !! ; I do not believe there is any reason to have a technically difficult name (the character is not present on keyboards) in lieu of a more accessible name; especially considering the minute differences and the fact it doesn't change the appearance of the title to readers & editors. I have no seen any justification for the odd use of the ‼ character; the original move on 16 January 2009‎ by Kaptincapo was explained as "(moved Mario Kart: Double Dash!! to Mario Kart: Double Dash‼: unicode)"; there have been notoriously many attempts to move, rename, redirect or otherwise correct the title. Salvidrim!  10:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Support: Not sure I would ever have noticed this without it being pointed out, but it makes no sense to use this character when !! conveys the exact same information, doesn't cause problems for those using non-unicode browsers/fonts, and reflects usage on the game's official website.  AJ Sham  13:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: even our article on the double exclamation point doesn't use the character.  AJ Sham  13:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not the title, but the first character of the body, yes. But that is besides the point. :)  Salvidrim!   13:42, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - No reason for it to be needlessly difficult, as it is now. Sergecross73   msg me   15:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. No reason to use that particular Unicode character. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 21:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Why should be use the Unicode character when two separate !'s looks the same? Canuck My page 89 (talk), 04:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


 * I have recently noticed that having two exclamations marks instead of the single unicode character of a double exclamation breaks a few things, specifically in tables. I think that may have been the reasoning behind the initial move to that title. If there are no objections I will consider changing it back so it doesn't break wikicode. For a specific example, see List of Mario racing games's history.  Salvidrim!   05:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea, so, after it broke another table I moved it back to the unicode character. Sorry for the time it took. I'll also take it up to VPT. :) · Salvidrim!  ·  &#9993;  23:30, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Move to "Mario Kart: Double Dash!!"?
I mean, even if it looks weird, it's the official full name. Maxeto0910 (talk) 23:14, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I know this is old but agreed | NJ (talk) 09:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Would anyone oppose a move to the title with the two exclamations? I support the change. —  Paper Luigi  T • C 23:46, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 5 March 2024
Mario Kart: Double Dash → Mario Kart: Double Dash!! – Adding exclamation marks to the title. This also used to be the page name but was changed (without a discussion AFAIK). 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 14:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)




 * Oppose - article appears to have been moved to its current title in 2016 by for the valid reasons of WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:TM. I agree with that argument, and the current proposal doesn't really offer a valid counterpoint.  Sergecross73   msg me  14:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Yeah, there's not really an argument to be made about "it's more correct with exlamation marks!!". The benchmarks for article titles are not meticulous accuracy to branding quirks, it's WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:TM and I don't see any argument that the current title fails any metric of recognizability, disambiguity, representativity or conciseness. Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  15:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per my aforementioned edit summary: common name and trademark guidelines. Uncontroversial moves don't require discussion and it hasn't been challenged for eight years. czar  17:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The exclamation points appear to be more of a stylistic convention than an integral part of the name. J I P  &#124; Talk 21:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose move. This stylization doesn't seem necessary, as reliable sources don't consistently use it.  O.N.R.  (talk) 23:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I stand corrected. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 09:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Cleanup effort?
Upon stumbling upon the above article, I reviewed the article, and...It's fallen a long ways since being made a WP:GA in 2012. The article is in rough shape, well below GA standards. There's all sort of unsourced content, trivia, sloppy stuff, etc. I'm going to try to clean it up a bit, but I don't know time I'll end up having. Others may want to jump in as well if its necessary - if someone one put it through a WP:GAR today, it'd fail for sure as is... Sergecross73  msg me  18:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * , you are right, the article has aged terribly and nothing was bothered about correcting the errors, which is why it needs its GAR. 2801:1CA:E:1411:BCBF:F879:7471:FE58 (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)