Talk:Marita Covarrubias/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 01:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

1a

 * "She was initially introduced as an informant of sorts, leaking diplomatic information to FBI Special Agent Fox Mulder to aid his investigation of paranormal cases, dubbed X-Files." - What exactly is an "informant of sorts?"
 * I've ditched "of sorts", had sorta intended to imply she never really had anything tremendously useful to offer but I guess it's too vague a way to get that across. GRAPPLE   X  02:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * "... commented that roughly fifteen seconds of screen-time took painstaking hours to rehearse." - Is "painstaking" really necessary?
 * Nah, it's not. Gone. GRAPPLE   X  02:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Jeffrey Spender, Alex Krycek, Walter Skinner... who are these people?
 * Clarified. GRAPPLE   X  02:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * "Debra Warlick, writing for Cinefantastique, felt that Holden's acting in "One Son" was "heart breaking", but found that she had "unfortunately" been used simply to convey a plot point to other characters." - Misspelling (heart breaking instead of heartbreaking) in the original? If so, sic should be used.
 * Ah, hadn't realised that would normally be one word. Sic template added. GRAPPLE   X  02:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

2a

 * Why do you include the time for some references and not others? Compare FN 2 and 4.
 * Added the time to ref 4. GRAPPLE   X  02:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

3a

 * Was she only in those four episodes?
 * There's six episodes used in the plot (some were two-parters though so their story summaries run together, it is four "chapters" I suppose). She appeared in a few other episodes (ten in total) in a more stand-alone role, just generally helping the plot of a particular episode advance without doing anything that affected a wider plot (for example, she simply gives some basic immigration and passport information on murder victims in the episode "Teliko"). I could fluff that out a little more with incidental details if you think it's too short. GRAPPLE   X  02:25, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, but perhaps a note on how many episodes she was in (if you have a source for it). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Added another sentence just to help things. I don't have a source that singularly cites all her appearances but I could probably bundle together page refs for a few books crediting her appearances season to season. Would you want that in the infobox or elsewhere? GRAPPLE   X  02:37, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea, assuming the infobox can support it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:43, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Added. If you think it needs tweaking, let me know. I could probably add a list of a episodes instead of just a number; though I'd be tempted to use a small text size for it (just this size though). GRAPPLE   X  03:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think, if we're going to just have a number, we should bundle FNs 1-3. An episode list would be fine though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * How does the list look? I could probably bundle those refs and hand the inline cite on the "appearances" bit instead of any particular episode title. GRAPPLE   X  03:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

6a

 * Why no image of the character herself? Isn't she somewhat or significantly different than the actress?
 * I felt a non-free file of the character might not seem important or "irreplaceable" if there was a free image of the actress (similar articles like X (The X-Files) or Deep Throat (The X-Files) use a non-free image since there's no free image of their actors, so a non-free image of character fits NFCC better than one of a living actor). If you feel a screenshot would be a better image to include then I'm happy to upload one and switch it in instead of the one of Holden, wouldn't take me more than a minute or two. GRAPPLE   X  02:29, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * See Thirteen (House) for an example of an article with a non-free image. I'd support keeping a non-free image in X (The X-Files) as well as the character and actor are quite different. I think it passes FUC1 as there is no way to get a free image of the character herself, and FUC8 as the article is about the character/role and not the actress. Of course, I'd defer to you on this one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:37, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I brought up X as there's no free image of Steven Williams, you see; so either way an image would be non-free. I'll go find a good image of the character now and add it; I'll leave it to you to decide whether to go solely with that or keep the Holden image in there too. GRAPPLE   X  02:40, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant that, for X, even with a free image I'd keep it as Steven Williams the person and X the character have different appearances... although it would be interesting if he did wear that outfit everywhere. I'd say keep both. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:43, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Steven Williams is fabulous. Feather earrings and the lot. Would have made X a whole different ballgame if he'd been in charge of wardrobe, I'm guessing. GRAPPLE   X  02:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehehe... Can't stay low key feather earrings. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Stuck a picture in there, let me know what you think. GRAPPLE   X  03:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good, quite different than her actress methinks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Spotchecks (based on this revision)
 * FN3:
 * FN3a: Checks out, no close paraphrasing
 * FN3b: Checks out, no close paraphrasing


 * FN20: Checks out, no close paraphrasing


 * FN21: Hmm... He notes that Krycek is also like that, so perhaps a qualifier?
 * Done. GRAPPLE   X  02:29, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Further discussion

 * On hold for seven days to deal with above issues. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, looks good. Passing — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:00, 11 May 2012 (UTC)