Talk:Mariupol

Split proposed
The history section of this article is long enough to merit its own article. See also Ukrainian-language article: History of Mariupol. Thoughts? -- M2545 (talk) 10:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it fits fine in this article. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:38, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No longer relevent. The city has been destroyed and the entire article needs to be renamed "The History of Mariupol". Chesapeake77 (talk) 07:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems eminently helpful--the city has an especially unique history that reaches with relevance to today. Tachypaidia (talk) 17:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * agreed Cononsense (talk) 15:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Mariupol still exists, but anyway none of the subjects in Category:Destroyed cities are titled “history of.” —Michael Z. 16:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * As stated in the article, the Siege of Mariupol has been compared to the devastating Siege of Leningrad during World War II. Since then, the city has recovered completely and regained its former glory. Hemanth Nalluri 11 (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No detailed mention of Soviet Era history, could benefit from its own article due to the depth of the history. (9-30-22)
 * I agree with you. --Synotia (talk) 15:27, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That makes sense, but it needs significant trimming at the very least, half of it is Russo-Ukrainian War and so a lot of it needs to be removed or moved to a history article. Mellk (talk) 15:47, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've trimmed the section on the siege itself as much as I could, this might help. HappyWith (talk) 21:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, after the trimming it cleanly fits into this article. HappyWith (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose article prosesize is at a healthy 6037 words so there's no basis for the nom anymore. Would recommend this discussion is WP:SPEEDYCLOSE. Cheers, Dan the Animator 05:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

switch from Russian to Ukrainian spelling
It would be interesting to know when the switch happened from the Russian spelling of the city to the Ukrainian spelling. As far as I understand the city was renamed in 1780 by request of the Greeks to Mariupol. So this was the periode under the Russian Empire, hence the Russian spelling Мариуполь. When did the offical change happen to the Ukrainian spelling Маріуполь? Was this in 1989 or 1991 or sometime later? 2003:C9:F24:AC00:1970:6888:EC4A:B56 (talk) 02:52, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Not entirely sure I understood your question, the city was called Mariupol more or less since it was founded. It was spelled Маріуполь in Russian according to the pre-1917 Russian orthography, which changed to Мариуполь after 1917. According to the current Ukrainian orthography (which wasn't standardised until late 19th - early 20th century) it's spelled Маріуполь. Once Ukraine became independent and the Ukrainian became the sole official language this became the official name. Do you propose to change something in the article? Alaexis¿question? 07:58, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * History rewritten by law... Ukrainian was the official language for the whole country. But Ukraine recognized 18 other languages for regional use. Since a city is a very regional thing Mariupol with its Russian speaking majority and its Greek speaking minority had 3 official spellings: Маріу́поль,Мариу́поль and Μαριούπολη.) This became questionable when the use of regional languages was restricted in the small period of time in 2014 when Ukraine had no "real" government, tried to make a law to remove the languages fully (which failed because a much more reasonable Poroshenko never signed it.) replaced the Constitutional Court of Ukraine and filed a constitutional complain against these Languages which, in 2017, declared them being unconstitutional backwards for the whole time. Маріу́поль->Маріуполь came later when the languages became more distinct after Russian and Ukrainian speaking people rater exchanged bullets instead of words. --2001:7C0:3006:3014:1679:61C3:EC43:BD02 (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended Confirmed edit request for typo
The final paragraph of the intro section says "seize" when it should say "siege" (indeed, it links to the "Siege of Mariupol" article). If anyone sees this. Denzera (talk) 03:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you. Rsk6400 (talk) 08:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 December 2023
I request in the country section that Russia be added as (De facto) while Ukraine be considered (De Jure). LegendaryChristopher (talk) 00:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template.  Delta  space 42  (talk • contribs) 19:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2024
Please add verb 'ended' or 'stopped' or an appropriate verb after 'When the fighting' and before the comma, at the beginning of the 3rd paragraph in the section 2022 Russian invasion. There is a verb missing. Veridica Small (talk) 18:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jamedeus (talk) 00:26, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Country
Shouldn't we change the flag to Russia after the capture and reconstruction? BarakHussan (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * No. We follow RS. Rsk6400 (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)