Talk:Mark Allen (snooker player)

Contradicting
This is contradicting to the data in the infobox.: "He won the European and World Amateur titles in 2005 before turning professional in 2005-06" also this article needs more references. Maybe a rewrite but im not willing to make that claim. -- CrazyChip 02:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, what it means is that he won those titles that year and turned pro for the start of the 2005-06 season later in 2005 bigpad (talk) 21:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC).

Claim of use of bad language
I find it unbelievable that Allen would use an expletive to a referee and get away with it. I therefore propose to delete that text if it is not verified soon bigpad (talk) 21:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Career earnings
The figure quoted can't be correct - semi in the Worlds alone carries a fairly hefty wedge. Needs researched properly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.1.168 (talk) 21:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Prize money for losing semi-finalists in 2008 Worlds is listed on Wiki as £52,000. --80.192.1.168 (talk) 21:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Rivalry
I think this section has been given more space here than it actually deserves, and is more about Bingham than Allen. I'd prefer to omit it all, but a much shorter version could do IMO. Finn Rindahl (talk) 18:42, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is that the case for Allen being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for an undisambiguated title is weaker than that of John Higgins. (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   11:20, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

– Similar to current RM at John Higgins (snooker player), the snooker player is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Whilst a pageviews analysis  isn't super convincing (Alan is still clearly the one with the bigger hits), the very successful snooker player is much more notable than the nearest in terms of pageviews, Mark Allen (triathlete). Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:05, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Mark Allen (snooker player) → Mark Allen
 * Mark Allen → Mark Allen (disambiguation)
 * Oppose. There are 15 entries at the Mark Allen disambiguation page — far too many for one entry to be advanced into this dominant position. "Mark Allen" is a common name and the expectation is for the bar to be set high — an international luminary whose name is a household word. Not the case here. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 13:43, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Please, please, please read what primary topic actually means before making this argument again. As you've been told, primary topic is about relative notability, not whether a page can reach some random standard you personally set to make them an "international luminary." A page can be a primary topic even if they are just an ordinary bloke.--Yaksar (let's chat) 07:01, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. Whilst Mark Allen is well known in the snooker world, I'm guessing he's maybe not so well known outside the community of snooker fans. Whereas I think John Higgins (4-time world champion) is more of a household name because he's had a more successful and prominent career than Allen. With respect, Allen just has one Masters title under his belt (which is awesome in its own right of course). Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Unsure. Although the snooker player gets about |Mark_Allen_(businessman)|Mark_Allen_(triathlete)|Bull_Allen_(rugby_union)|Mark_Allen_(snooker_player)|Mark_Allen_(footballer)|Mark_Allen_(DJ)|Mark_Allen_(politician)|Mark_S._Allen|Mark_Johnston-Allen a third of pageviews, the numbers look a bit unstable and his popularity tends to occasionally dip below that of the triathlete. Not sure there's a strong enough argument for this one. PC78 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure where the "third of pageviews" comes from. Seems to be nearly two-thirds, from the link you provide. Nigej (talk) 08:22, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yep, I meant two thirds. PC78 (talk) 21:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Unsure The argument is weaker than for Higgins. Allen is, from a historical perspective, not as important as Higgins. In addition the triathlete Mark Allen is clearly an important figure and gets a significant number of hits, probably because he's moved into coaching. Nigej (talk) 08:39, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No clear primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


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