Talk:Mark E. Smith

“Changes in medicine”
Very unclear. Do you mean he changed medication? The phrasing sounds like something in the medical establishment changed, and I doubt that is what is meant. Kafka Liz (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I only have the adverse reaction to a change in "his prescribed" medicine claim from a podcast recorded with Stewart Lee two days before Smith died. Dunno how to reference a podcast, though the two were friends and I assume Lee would know, also he is a supreme non bullshitter. Hold on! it will emerge in the coming months, I suspect. Ceoil (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Has the ring of truth, but the phrasing is still a bit weird, and I’m not sure this is yet verifiable? Want everything to be clear, is all. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:37, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but was thinking that people might have been wondering why he was appearing on a wheelchair this year, and Lee seems a better choice than their imagination. Ceoil (talk) 23:48, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Where do we get the idea that Stewart Lee and MES were friends? --Dannyno (talk) 21:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Will wait on copy editing until things are more settled. Would like to help with that. Kafka Liz (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed to "medication" - more usual term. Referencing could be improved.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * SOFIX, rather than being snide. That kind of stand back superiority is just...ugg. Unwatching this page; have at it. Ceoil (talk) 22:53, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I meant referencing of the medication question, not more widely. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:31, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) He did fix the medication thing. Anything else ought to be slept on. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

FA
Can we do this? I’ll copy-edit, advise, and do whatever I can. Article is not yet there, but I think we can do it. Anyone on board need not reply, just edit, and we can hash it out here. Kafka Liz (talk) 21:59, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, barring resistance I’ll copy edit as I see fit. Content is not an issue save when I need clarification. I’d love some more input here, guys. Work away. Kafka Liz (talk) 22:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And the lack of willingness to work together is read loud and clear, gentlemen. Best, Kafka Liz (talk) 01:09, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe the subject matter naturally draws difficult people, like Smith himself... In any event I think a GA is a more achievable goal, anyone else have any thoughts? Beeblebrox (talk) 02:35, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I’m cool with that, though I think the standards there are malleable. I’d like nothing but the best here, but I can take one step at a time. Kafka Liz (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you recommend as the next step? I’m all ears, and open to recommendations here. Kafka Liz (talk) 02:54, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

More Songs About Mark E. Smith
For future use by myself or someone else:


 * "Mark E. Smith & Brix" - Barbara Manning - https://www.allmusic.com/album/lately-i-keep-scissors-mw0000114415
 * "Southern Mark Smith" - The Jazz Butcher - more of an example of an oxymoron than actually about MES
 * "Stalking Mark E. Smith Around NYC" - Necropolis - perhaps too obscure

- Foetusized (talk) 14:41, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Quite a few more on this album, and then, of course, there's Marc Riley's "Jumper Clown". --Michig (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * "Jumper Clown" being the Creepers sole good tune:) The Manning article looks quite good. Ceoil  (talk) 20:09, 10 February 2019 (UTC)