Talk:Mark Hamill/Archive 1

Trivia

 * He is the fourth of seven children, having four sisters and two brothers.
 * He has been married to Mary Lou York, since December 17, 1978, with whom he has three children. They met when she was his dental hygienist.
 * He attended Walsingham Academy (founded by the Sisters of Mercy) in Williamsburg, Virginia. He briefly attended Annandale High School before his family moved to Japan when he was 16.
 * He attended Yokohama High School, now known as Nile C. Kinnick High School. Kinnick H.S. has an award named in his honor; it is presented every year in June to two seniors (one male, one female) who excel in drama.
 * He recently appeared in a Comcast commercial as a 'future expert'.
 * He campaigned for George McGovern during the 1972 presidential race.
 * He was originally cast as David Bradford on Eight is Enough. Having just completed Star Wars, Hamill felt the movie was going to be a hit, and wanted to focus on his film career. And while he did play David in the pilot, Grant Goodeve played the character for the rest of the show's run.
 * Appeared with Carrie Fisher in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. It was the first time either of them had been in a movie together since Return of the Jedi. Neither knew the other was involved until shortly after principal photography wrapped.
 * British comic The Beano at one time was advertising its fan club saying that Mark Hamill was a member.
 * He based the voice he gave the Joker for Batman: The Animated Series on a combination of Hannibal Lecter and Jerry Lewis.

(note: it can be argued that trivia should not be in the body of the text of an encyclopedia (if one believes that an encylopedia is a dense summary of the core facts about a topic or person) : ) .... but there is a lot of work here, and it is interesting, and could be placed on a Talk page or fan discussion site

Picture
why not get some current pictures of him. get rid of the luk skywaler pic and put pics of him not in a role just a thoughtYourname 22:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I moved the picture to get rid of the one inch gap it caused. Dark jedi requiem 03:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't that picture be cropped a little more to remove the other person on the left? Also he is looking kinda crazy in that picture. Inseeisyou (talk) 09:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Is it me or does the picture make Mark Hamill look like Admiral Akbar? It looks like he's in the middle of saying "It's a trap!" re: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/fb/Ackbar_HS.jpg66.241.32.158 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

The current picture is horrible. Does anyone have anything better?--75.152.169.231 (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Anything would be better. MaximCHS (talk) 11:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I also Agree. i literally went "Gah!" and cringed slightly when it loaded, it looks like he is wearing prosthetics. 124.181.22.155 (talk) 05:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Is there a less depressing image of him available? The current one makes me very sad. Is there one that is happier, but still recent? Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 14:01, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I suggest using this picture from 2011 http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/09/Mark-Hamill.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.94.237 (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok - whoever picked the current profile picture for the article: could we maybe get one that DOESN'T give small children nightmares for a year? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.243.170 (talk) 05:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Also have to chime in and say every time I look at this page I cringe at the photograph. It makes me think someone who doesn't like Hamill is keeping that image there. Wikipedia is supposed to be unbiased, and I feel there can be bias in images, such as in this case.

The Accident
It looks like a lot of rumours about the accident exist. I see several different versions of the accident story here, e.g here we have this paragraph describing the accident:


 * On 11 January 1977, on the way to shoot one of the final scenes needed for Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Hamill was involved in a car accident that caused substantial damage to his face. A double was used for the scene of Luke racing across the desert in his landspeeder while Mark was hospitalized. Supposedly, he was told by his surgeons that although facial reconstruction surgery could save his career in the short term, it would have only temporary results. Over time, the scarring would become increasingly visible, and he would have to rethink his acting career. In an A&E Biography special from 2002, the nature and result of the accident are explained by Hamill's family.

Or the current version:


 * On 11 January 1977, on the way to shoot one of the final scenes needed for Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Hamill was involved in a car accident that caused damage to his face. Though some minor scarring would last, the severity of his injury was greatly exaggerated in the following years. Rumors continue to abound that he suffered terrible disfigurement and was forced to undergo intense plastic surgery in order to resume his acting career. Hamill, however, insists he only suffered from a broken nose. In the second Star Wars film, Episode V, he is seen with a new scar along his upper lip which may or may not be related. In an A&E Biography special from 2002, the nature and result of the accident are explained by Hamill's family.

I wonder what the truth is here; I think there is some disagreement over what really happened. Did the accident really damage him that badly, or is this another urban legend?

Doing some reasearch, the A&E special is called "Biography: Mark Hamill: A Force to Be Reckoned With", which aired on Tuesday, May 21, 2002. This program can be bought on VHS here, and the promo for this states that Mark Hamill "endur[ed] multiple surgeries to rebuild his face". I think it is reasonable, in light of this, to put more accident detail in to this article. Samboy 23:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Doing more research, here is another report concerning the accident:


 * Reports of Hamill's wreck quickly spiraled out of control, with reports of extensive plastic surgeries required to rebuild the actor's visage and scenes in The Empire Strikes Back (1980) having to be refilmed to account for his facial scarring and convalescence. In fact, Hamill broke his nose six months prior to shooting Corvette Summer and needed one corrective surgery


 * Samboy 23:55, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

What Mark Hammil does with his appendages
Left handed? Is this really wikiworthy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.138.42.111 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC) (UTC)

General comment on this article
Lots of lists do not make for good prose. Please avoid using them instead of writing out your sentences. Thanks. Raul654 00:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I got something more to add here : This article does not give Hamill's filmography in an easily readable way. It may recquire a "form cleanup". Have a look at the structure of the article about Harrison Ford. To know what I'm talking about. As I'm not a Mark Hamill specialist, I don't know how to do it. But maybe someone here can help. King mike 20:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Mike is right about the general policy on filmography. Having a list of works doesn't qualify as a superfluous or unprofessional use of lists. Thence, someone really should change it. 66.229.182.113 09:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

If you want to have a list of Hamill's filmography, go to IMDB or to the Official Mark Hamill Fan Club. You'll get your list there. This is a general list of things about Mark, is it not?? Terri Tasker 07:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The other animated series?
"In addition to his role as Luke Skywalker, Hamill is also best known as the voice of the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series and the other animated series that followed it."

Who wrote this? "the other animated series that followed it." Are you referring to Batman Beyond or something?
 * I assumed the author was referring to Hamill reprising the Joker character in "The New Batman Adventures", "The Batman/Superman Movie" (a/k/a "World's Finest") and in guest appearances on "Justice League".12.162.189.80 20:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I bow down to thee. --Yancyfry jr 04:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I also noticed that there's nothing about him as one of the Tribunal characters in the Adult Swim series involving Dethlok.--24.7.162.39 05:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

In the anime section, he also provided a voice for one of the starring characters in Steamboy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.230.185.100 (talk • contribs) 10:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC) (UTC)

Weird Al TWAS Parody
I know that George Lucas and Alec Guinness both supported the Star Wars parody that "Weird Al" Yankovic was going to make in an episode of "The Weird Al Show". Mark Hamill was the only one who turned Al down because, in Al's words, he thought "people were sort of pigeon-holing him as "that Star Wars Guy". He thought he wouldn't want to egg that on." Where shuold I put this in the article, if need mentioning? StrongBad27 14:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You'd first need to find a citable source for that info. If you can, then it could probably be said in a sentence in the "live action television" paragraph under "Other Work."  However, I wonder if it's really worth going into a role he didn't take on this page, since actors turn down roles all the time and Hamill's turning down of this particular role doesn't seem all that notable an event in his life.  The info may be a better fit on the article for The Weird Al Show. Rob T Firefly 16:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hamill's Military Brat Background
Hamill is listed as a 'Famous Military Brat' In another Wiki Article-- that article should be linked somewhere in this one.

Growing up as a military brat is actually a very unique experience with unique challenges (including having a very international childhood, growing up with high mobility and also often with a noticable military influence within the family). So this aspect of Hamills life adds an interesting dimension to his personal story.

Such an upbringing may also have made him a good choice to play the role of an apprentice warrior living on the outer fringes of an Empire (some resonance there with the good and bad aspects of the military brat life that involves living on or near military posts in the outer edges of the American Empire).

In the wiki article "Military Brats (Subculture)" Hamill can be found listed under the section entitled "Famous Military Brats". I recommend placing that articles' link within this article.

Sean7phil (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

three testicles?
"Throughout his youth, Mark struggled with exclusion from his peers, who often ridiculed him after they dicovered that he had three testicles and was still unable to count at the age of 23[2]."

I'm gonna call shenanigans on this. I can't find anything liek this anywhere else, and since the link cited is www.nocumdodgingallowed.com I think it's fake/false info. How do we remove it?

71.11.207.202 (talk) 21:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts on his "career" post Star Wars
Instead of titling this section with being his "post Star Wars career" why not change the title to "Struggles in the Industry after Star Wars. He has had a very lucrative voice over career since Star Wars, so he hasn't disappeared entirely from the scene, so I don't think the title fits the section.  Thought? Valley2390 (talk) 21:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

also his work on the show metalocolypse should be noted 68.39.154.24 (talk) 16:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That would be even worse, stating Hamill had "struggles". -- Soetermans |  is listening  |  what he'd do now?  11:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

There aren't any official news regarding Mark Hamill being cast in the upcoming Robotech (2010) film...
The sources listed in the article don't contain any reference to such information. Modify/update the article when there is official information available...

Kronnang Dunn (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

re: Invader Zim
but was ultimately turned down for the role; the part was later given to Richard Steven Horvitz (he didn't scream longest and loudest).

Is this an Invader Zim in-joke? What does that even mean? I wanted to clean up this sentence as it is apparently so contentious that it requires two citations, but I'm too confused by the screaming comment to proceed. Can anyone help? -- Waverly 22:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It means Zim screams long and loud. Horvitz screamed long and louder than Hamill, so Horvitz got the role.  It was a very confusingly written sentance, though, suggesting that it was Horvitz who didn't audition an impressive scream.  -- AvatarMN (talk) 18:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
I saw a citation was needed for "However, neither of the stars were aware of this until the film's premiere."

The only place I've read this is at the Trivia section of the movie itself at IMDb. Here's the link. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0261392/trivia

I don't know if it's sufficient though.

Pholten (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Where is Body bags?
Did I just over look this? I know he had a role in the film but did not see it on the list. --1WickedClown (talk) 10:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Posts from 2005-2009
In this edit, some IP removed one side of the stuff I researched above. I have since restored it. Samboy 04:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

From cabbagestew 19:00, 10 August 2008 (PDT): I think what is written here in the Car Accident section is as accurate as it can be. I added the references. I also own a copy of the A&E special. If his older brother and sister as well as his cousin all talk about this accident, then it is definitely true. Also, there are way too many articles in the late 1970s (including the one I referenced) that discuss the accident in detail.

Just my two cents


 * While I do believe from what I've read that the accident happened, I wouldn't say that a brother, sister, and cousin talking about the accident makes it "definitely true", they are all family after all. I think it reads fine as is however. Inseeisyou (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Whatever the truth about the extent of Hamill's surgery was, it was shockingly obvious to me how different he looked in Empire than in A New Hope as a result of the accident. And I don't mean the just the scar; his nose is completely different. In fact, if you showed a before and after to someone who had no knowledge of Hamill, they probably wouldn't think that they were even the same person. 74.131.29.186 (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

What is the point of mentioning the accident in the article? I fail to see how it is notable based on its wording at the moment. The section doesn't imply that it had any lasting significance. Dwr12 (talk) 02:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Clean-up
This page is in dire need of clean-up. I started the process by reorganizing the sections - separating his career into live action and voice acting roles, since he has achieved a measure of fame in each separately. Also, I removed any arbitrary headers for certain movies - like Jay and Silent Bob or Comic Book Movie, because those roles weren't anymore notable than anything else he's done, so they don't deserve special consideration. As it is now, all of his acting roles (voice and live) are just arbitrarily placed - probably as contributors thought of them. It would be best if they were organized chronologically, but with respect to each category (i.e. keeping voice and live separate). I will take a crack at this later if no one else is willing. &mdash; Godheval T C W 20:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more.. Take a look at this phrase.. "One of the rare celebs to live almost at a similar level to president Obama and the rest of America than most of the well to do celebs in california..." Oy... Dphilp75 (talk) 02:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Awards
This should go in - Shouldn't it I have no time to produce this table at the moment.  Piandao  21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA
1984	Won	Saturn Award	 Best Actor: Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 1981	Won	Saturn Award	 Best Actor: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

1978	Nom	Saturn Award	 Best Actor: Star Wars (1977)

Annie Awards
2001	Nominated	Annie	 Outstanding Individual Achievement for Voice Acting by a Male Performer in an Animated Feature Production: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000) - As the voice of "The Joker". 1994	Nominated	Annie	 Best Achievement for Voice Acting: "Batman" (1992)

DVD Exclusive Awards
2005	Won	DVDX Award	 Best Live-Action DVD Premiere Movie: Comic Book: The Movie (2004) (Shared with: Scott Zakarin, Eric Mittleman

2005	Nom	DVDX Award	 Best Actor (in a DVD Premiere Movie): Comic Book: The Movie (2004)

2005	Nom	DVDX Award	 Best Director (of a DVD Premiere Movie): Comic Book: The Movie (2004) (V)

2001	Won	Video Premiere Award	 Best Animated Character Performance: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000) Shared with: Bruce W. Timm (character designer: The Joker)

ShoWest Convention, USA
1978	Won	ShoWest Award	 Male Star of Tomorrow  Piandao  21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Pointless picture
The unclear photo of his hand prints??? I think it needs removing - so I'm gonna!..... I did  Piandao   21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hoth injury written to explain accident damage?
This has been added without a source, and then again by reusing the source from the previous line. I'd like to have the relevance of the reference verified by an editor who has access to the book (Google Books cuts off for me at page 226, and the reference is for 249-250). --ShadowRangerRIT (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Filmography
This ought to include When Time Expires, 1997 91.107.92.159 (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Filmography should include TV appearance in "Streets of San Francisco", Season 5, Episode 17, Title: "Innocent No More", first aired Feb. 24, 1977, character name: Billy Wilson, member of juvenile gang charged with murder of 80 year old woman. This was filmed before the accident but aired just a month after it. Source: imbd page for "Streets of S.F.", Season 5, at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0711536/. Verification: I saw the episode - he tied the lady up with a guitar string (the low E) and she died of a heart attack. Tluber (talk) 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Air Force One
He played a pilot in the movie Air Force One where he dies at the end. The president is played by Harrison Ford who stared with Mark in Star Wars.Yami (talk) 23:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ...No he didn't! -- Soetermans |  is listening  |  what he'd do now?  11:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.221.167 (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

outstandin voice active for Joker
He has performed the voice of Joker for many games and episodes, i think he should deserve a section for this specifically79.112.116.129 (talk) 10:35, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Ridiculously Detailed
I attempted to clean up this page because I don't think that including (unsourced) details about his lines in minor roles and irrelevant plot points related to those minor roles is appropriate on the wiki page for an actor. Do references to Jay and Silent Bob necessitate an entire paragraph? Does writing like, "When his large, fake right hand prop is cut off in the film's duel" really belong here? "Large, fake right hand prop"? Is it necessary to clarify that Mr. Hamill did not lose his actual hand during filming? Do we really need to know that Mr. Hamill said, 'Hi, Ray and Rirent Rob'."? The page appears to have been written by trivia fans as they happen to stumble across Mark Hamill's page. Frankly, it's a mess and it's badly written, and the information is haphazardly arranged. My edits were quickly reverted, however.  I'm not sure what the justification for including this unsourced info is, especially since it doesn't contribute anything valuable to the page--rather, it detracts from it.  184.38.19.227 (talk) 20:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I reverted the removal of the list of filmography; I have nothing against your first edit. You may be right about Wikipedia not being IMDB, but I would recommend that such a large removal is discussed on the talk page first.  I have restored your first edit now.  -  down  load  ׀  talk  22:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Online Campaign For Animated Killing Joke
I have put in a bit about the fact that there has now been an online campaign for the killing joke which I have personally set up been created after Hamill asked his fans to to do it in the article. I thought it should go in there as after all Hamill asked his fans to campaign online for it and now they are doing that. Still though if anyone thinks it doesn't belong here obviously it can just get taken out. --Zolfianyarvelling (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Political Views
Hamill's quote about Obama and Romney was severely skewed to make it look as if he supported Romney. I've changed it to reflect the actual quote, found here: http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Mark-Hamill:-Mitt-Romney-is-not-actually-human-Video/8737995. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.241.204 (talk) 19:57, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

New York Post gossip
As the editor who keeps adding it back in again has not brought it here as required by WP:BRD, but has described removing poorly sourced gossip as vandalism instead I will bring it up here.

Reading the reference given in a source that is known not to be reliable, which gives no indication of who spotted them, when it occurred or any indication of seeking comment from Hamill about the allegation - but as the editor pointed out, it does include a picture of Hamill - not actually smoking anything but a stock picture - so that must make it accurate. It should be removed per WP:BLP. noq (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Houses when he was a kid
Does any body knows where marks Hamill lived when he was young before the Blockbuster Star Wars? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.151.106.114 (talk) 21:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Best known for
best known for his performance as Luke Skywalker in the original Star Wars trilogy, as well as his voice role as the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, its various spin-offs, and the video games Batman: Arkham Asylum and Batman: Arkham City.

I think that it is so clear what he is best known for that we don't need everything after "trilogy". You might as well say Klaus Barbie was well known for being the Butcher of Lyons, as well as his ballroom dancing medals.
 * I could not find any sign of the medals on his wikipedia page. I agree it should not appear in the lede (or else WP would sound
 * like the Onion) but I would still like to read about the medals. 129.132.211.93 (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Ordinary Person (talk) 09:30, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Reference problems.
Regarding these following references: "18. "Mark Hamill Retires From His Role as The Joker After 19 Years". Comics Alliance. Retrieved October 7, 2014. 19. "Welcome to Twitter - Login or Sign up". Retrieved October 7, 2014. 20. "Mark Hamill Retires From His Role as The Joker After 19 Years – ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews". ComicsAlliance. Retrieved October 21, 2012."

Numbers 18. and 19. strongly appear to be the same reference. Can the author who entered them decide on a format and merge them?

Number 20. leads to Twitter. Please review self-published sources. There's also something in the guidelines about not using sources that readers have to register for in order to see, but I can't find it right now. Almost 1A and getting tired. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Hamill credited with a large measure of the success of "The Empire Strikes Back".
The documentary, "Empire of Dreams - The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy" is found on YouTube in it's entirety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zMpLPjRms. In it, Hamill is credited for a lot of the success of "The Empire Strikes Back", beginning at approximately 1:31:00 and again at 1:41:45. Reasons include his soldering on during a Norwegian blizzard when the crew stayed warm indoors filming out through a door while Hamill tramped around in the frigid tempest; his performance made the audience accept Yoda as a real character, not just as a guest Muppet; he had a great deal of trouble hearing Frank Oz speak Yoda's dialogue, but made it work; he faced physical and emotional stresses as he did much of his stunts and was the only human actor on the set for months. (While in the swamp, when he reacts to the snake that he pulls out of his ship, he was actually bitten.) I do not know about the copyright status of the documentary. If uploaded to YouTube illegally, then it can't be linked to, but the documentary itself can be used as a reference. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 05:24, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

PLEASE NOTE
The edit by me at 14:30, 12 January 2016‎ that appears to be a large deletion (-1,488)‎ was actually just an addition of a tag. It appears to be a large deletion, because bot-performed tag dates were inadvertently lost. Thay have since been reintroduced. Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Edits of this day
The first, primary issue of the article clearly appears to be a very loose interpretation of what is acceptable sourcing per WP sourcing policies and guidelines. First, per that policy, Wikilinks do not constitute fulfillment of reqs of WP:VERIFY; all factual statements need real sources. In many places in this article, this appears to be misunderstood by editors creating text; and so text of whole or near to whole paragraphs, subsections, or sections appears without a single source.

Second, placing a single citation at the end of the paragraph is generally not acceptable when it is clear on reading that the topics of the sentences of the paragraph means they were taken from different sources. For this reason, some interpretations were made, that the closing citation could not possible have covered one or another of the sentences before it (and so tags were placed).

Third, the quality of sources that do appear is clearly on the weak end of the WP range, though some of these were dealt with. '''See Section "Reference problems." above.' Twitter sources were not'' removed, though these are dubious sources unless validated by re-publication in a news venue with editorial standards, and so these need to be checked one at a time, looking at any accompanying citation for verification. (A tweet is a primary source; what is needed is a secondary source, and a good one.) IMDB is not an valid WP source, and so these citations were removed—rather than tagging the article further—and replaced with, because IMDB is a user-populated (self-published) web venue, and so not a WP-approved source of biographical content. In other places, content seems to have been taken from youtube interviews, but (a) without noting time in the video (so citation is incomplete, making verification arduous), and (b) regardless, these are poor sources, since it is a self-published site, and a non-standard news source (i.e., without clear editorial involvement that would ensure veracity of content). I.e., one cannot compare an interview at youtube with one at NYT or CBS (video or otherwise), vis-a-vis the reliability of their respective news content: put simply, youtube has zip for editorial standards, and anyone can say anything there.

Fourth, sources besides video content are likewise incomplete. For citations to be verifiable (the point of WP:VERIFY), citations need to be complete: books with ISBN, publisher, page number; video with producer and production Co., and min. of video containing info; magazines with authors, publication name, date, etc. (This includes the reason, so that when the URL goes dead, it can be fixed.) Many citations are lacking one or more needed parts to be verifiable—e.g., search Rinzler to see a book that lacks most standard citation information, and then look around generally for citations lacking one or more of these: authors, journals/venues/newspaper names, retrieve dates, etc.

Fifth, sources appearing are not in a single format, and so one citation style/format needs to be chosen, and the whole of the reference list needs to move in that direction. (To the extent that there is any consistency in citation style, it might be described as "URL plus minimally more".)

So, taking these problems together, I also added the article's refimprove tag, as well as section tags to indicate thee issues with certain sections.

Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Leprof 7272, while your efforts are very much appreciated and your concerns are valid, tag bombing like you did here and here isn't going to solve anything. Several guidelines on WP:TC apply:
 * Avoid tagging articles if you can easily and confidently fix the problem.
 * Don’t insert tags that are similar or redundant.
 * If an article has many problems, tag only the highest priority issues. - I can not stress this enough
 * Don't add tags for trivial or minor problems, especially if an article needs a lot of work. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 22:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Filmography

 * Rapsittie Street Kids: Believe in Santa (2002) as Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.177.213 (talk) 22:08, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Car wreck
he wreaked a Porsche not a BMW BassGirl (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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Political Affiliation
Unless he's politicilly active why would "political party" be included in the biography details of an actor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2FD7:C0E0:C0E9:6737:B0FF:4F03 (talk) 23:56, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2018
In the Star Wars section, the sixth paragraph currently ends with a statement about fundamental differences with Rian Johnson. A sentence should be added after that as follows:

However, Hamill later expressed regret for voicing his doubts in public. Jeffdotf (talk) 00:16, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: If Hamill were retracting a statement, then it would be notable. But his regret at publicly voicing feelings better expressed in private is not notable.   Spintendo  ᔦᔭ   14:56, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Mark Hamill is going to have a star on Hollywood Walk of Fame
In the 21st of february it camed out that Hamill is going to get a star on Hollywood Walk of Fame. Eliassons587 (talk) 11:12, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:43, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Political Affiliation
Unless Mark is running for office, I fail to see how its relevant in the template. He's a hollywood actor of course he's a democrat but unless hes also a politician it makes no sense to have it there as who the hell cares. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8389:4120:3CF3:44C9:4088:3F1F (talk) 01:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Clarifying Mark Hamill's thoughts on his portrayal of luke in the last jedi
As the wiki article currently stands, it makes mention of Mark Hamill's negative thoughts on the portrayal of Luke in the Last Jedi. There should be follow-up mention to his tweets after the matter, and his discussions of the role of Luke in the movie with writer/director Rian Johnson, and that they came to agree on the role after discussing it with one another. It currently tells only the negative side of the story and should clarify his full thoughts on the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.78.144 (talk) 04:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

If anyone is looking for the particular tweet it can be found here: https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/945784443964309505 Just another squid (talk) 00:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Asserted story about Mark Hamill's alleged grandchild...
I removed the info & its source here because the only places this allegation is reported on is in single-intyerest/POV sites like "lifesitenews" or in the usually-suspect "DailyMail". No reputable reliable sources reported on this allegation. At this point the info & its "sources" should not be allowed to stay in the article. Shearonink (talk) 04:23, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

What about this? https://www.liveaction.org/news/brooke-shields-mark-hamill-abortion-coercion/ Smokeyfire (talk) 08:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Smokeyfire
 * Does it really need to be explained to you that that is not a reliable source? That website isn't interested in reporting the news, it only cares about relaying a pro life, anti choice message.--Atlan (talk) 10:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

People deserve to know the truth about Mark Hamil. Smokeyfire (talk) 12:07, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Smokeyfire
 * See WP:TRUTH.--Atlan (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * : The content (and the sources) you have been adding to this article violate WP:IRS, WP:NPOV, and WP:BLP. Keeping WP:BLP in mind - "People deserve to know the truth"?...your "truth" could easily be a falsehood or a lie...the only places this supposed "news" has been reported is 1)in a single source that is not accepted by Wikipedia as reliable (see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources -Daily Mail) and 2)in sources that are not neutral and are pushing a particular POV.
 * This story and its source has been added by you twice and has then been deleted by different editors twice...Wikipedia is edited according to consensus and editorial consensus seems to be against including this allegation & its spurious sources in the article. If you wish, you might want to consider the various steps at Dispute resolution & Dispute resolution requests/Guide including a possible WP:RFC about the issue on this talk page. Shearonink (talk) 14:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
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Worth adding mention?
The Investigation: A Search for the Truth in Ten Acts --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2019
He also has one grandchild by his son Nathan. [CITATION NEEDED] Nickwelp (talk) 08:32, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I've actually just removed the sentence entirely. See Special:Diff/924355955. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 10:30, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2019
"Hamill was critical of his own role in The Last Jedi, stating that he and director Rian Johnson had "a fundamental difference" on the characterization of Luke Skywalker" in the starwars section should be changed to something like "while Hamill was initially critical of his own role in The Last Jedi, stating that he and director Rian Johnson had "a fundamental difference" on the characterization of Luke Skywalker, he has since regretted making those earlier disagreements public, and has come around to Johnson's choices."

Source would be: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/mark-hamill-rian-johnson-regret-the-last-jedi

Alternatively the line should just be deleted because it doesn't add much to the section and serves more as a way for a vocal section of the star wars fanbase to voice their displeasure with The Last Jedi, taking select quotes from people and ignoring others. 72.194.244.165 (talk) 02:53, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:25, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Additional Work for Mark Hamill - Knightfall
Please consider adding Mark's roll in Knightfall on Netflix. There's no current mention of it as of 1/21/2020. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:300A:302:8400:4D4F:221C:7FC8:17B1 (talk) 04:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Knightfall character added. Alexcalamaro (talk) 06:59, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2020
Change "in the final episode of the animated series The Clone Wars" to "in the final episode of season 6 the animated series The Clone Wars" or something like that, since season 7 now exists. 76.28.124.79 (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done GoingBatty (talk) 22:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Some useful information for Joker section?
Any of the following information that I revised/added in to one of my recent edits in the Batman: The Animated Series article. Might be worth noting...
 * While the use of this origin was based on Jack Nicholson's character, Mark Hamill was given the note "Don't do Nicholson" before his audition. Even though Tim Curry had already recorded a few episodes, Hamill was given the part. Hamill, who found himself to be the biggest fan of the Batman comics among the cast, credited the laughs he had honed on stage in Amadeus with landing him the role. He worked to craft a multifaceted laugh for the Joker that could change to reflect the Joker's current mood, likening it to a musical instrument. Hamill's take on the Joker's laugh is considered to be groundbreaking for the voice-acting industry, and led to Hamill having an enormously successful voice-acting career. Of the many influences for his performance, including Jay Leno and Howard Cosell, Hamill cited Claude Rains’ performance in the 1933 film The Invisible Man.  

While I'm sure some tidbits may be irrelevant, I'd like to think some of it is useful. 162.218.6.93 (talk) 01:49, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Invincible hyperlink
In the general works area, the hyperlink for Invincible leads to the superhero himself and not the comic. Can someone please fix that?

And in the same sentence, can we have "animated adaptation" be a hyperlink to the tv show? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6c51:7c7e:f5d3:a03e:bccf:4e0e:92ba (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Actor's occupations
Some administrator could remove the term "actor" and "voice actor" to the occupations of actor Mark Hamill on his page, because I cannot edit it because it was protected to prevent a sockpuppet like altering all the information and it is possible for me that I can remove so many occupations in the short description because it is already too much to fit in it. Thanks. 148.0.113.228 (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Unlock
Or fix the copyediting - Virginia has 3 'i's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.85.207.222 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2022
Change the “friends with Simon Helberg” part to clarify that Simon was a childhood friend of his son Darthkaneda (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I just removed that sentence because it was WP:UNDUE trivia, even if corrected. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Filmography list
moving this here, as long, detailed lists are not really appropriate for main pages.

Features

 * Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977) as Luke Skywalker
 * Corvette Summer (1978)
 * The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978) as Luke Skywalker
 * Sam Fuller and the Big Red One (1979) (documentary)
 * Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) as Luke Skywalker
 * The Big Red One (1980)
 * The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia (1981)
 * Britannia Hospital (1982)
 * Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983) as Luke Skywalker
 * Gather Ye Acorns in Amazing Stories (TV Series) (1986) as Jonathan Quick
 * Slipstream (1989)
 * Fall of the Eagles (1989)
 * Midnight Ride (1990)
 * The Guyver (1991)
 * Black Magic Woman (1991)
 * Earth Angel (1991)
 * Sleepwalkers (1992) as Lt. Jennings
 * Time Runner (1993)
 * Silk Degrees (1994)
 * The Raffle (1994)
 * Village of the Damned (1995)
 * Laserhawk (1997)
 * Hamilton (1998)
 * Watchers Reborn (1998)
 * Walking Across Egypt (1999)
 * Thank You, Good Night (2001)
 * Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001) as Cocknocker / Himself
 * Reeseville (2003)
 * Comic Book: The Movie (2004) (also director)
 * Repetition (2005)
 * Minkow (2011) as Robert Minkow
 * Airborne (2011) as Malcom
 * Sushi Girl (2012) as Crow
 * Robotech (2012)
 * Thelomeris (2012) as Stranger
 * The Machine (2023) as Albert Kreischer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:4AA9:A300:65D5:6889:7F67:E2A3 (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Voice work

 * The New Scooby-Doo Movies Episode: Mystery of Haunted Island (1973) as Announcer
 * Jeannie (1973) as Corey Anders
 * Wizards (1977) Sean
 * Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984) as the Mayor of Pejite
 * Castle in the Sky (1986) as Muska (1998 English dub)
 * Batman: The Animated Series (1992) as The Joker
 * Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993) as The Joker
 * Spiderman: The Animated Series (1994) as Hobgoblin
 * Fantastic Four (1994) as Maximus
 * Mina and the Count (1995) as The Count
 * The Incredible Hulk as the Gargoyle
 * Starsiege (1997) as Harabec Weathers/Canaan Weathers
 * The New Batman Adventures (1997) as The Joker
 * The Simpsons (1998) as Himself and Leavelle one episode
 * Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island (1998) as Snakebite Scruggs
 * Gen¹³ (1999) as Matthew "Threshold" Callahan
 * Wing Commander (1999) as Merlin (AI of Christopher Blair's Rapier fighter)
 * The New Woody Woodpecker Show (1999) as Buzz Buzzard
 * Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists (2000)
 * Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders (2000)
 * Joseph: King of Dreams (2000)
 * Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000) as The Joker
 * Icewind Dale (HOW expansion) (2001) as a selectable voiceset
 * Time Squad (2001) as Larry 3000
 * Earth Day (2001) (short subject)
 * Balto II: Wolf Quest (2002)
 * Grandia Xtreme (2002) as Colonel Kroitz
 * Birds of Prey (2002) as The Joker
 * Codename: Kids Next Door (2002) as Captain Stickybeard
 * Aero-Troopers: The Nemeclous Crusade (2003) as the voice of Older Joshua
 * ''Dark Chronicle (2003) as Griffon
 * Family Guy (2003) as Luke Skywalker
 * The Wrong Coast (2003) as Jameson Burkwright
 * Stripperella (2003) as Dr. Caesarian
 * Avatar: The Last Airbender (2005) as Fire Lord Ozai and other voices
 * ''Danger Rangers (2005) as Burt
 * Robot Chicken (2005–present)(voice) as Himself, Harrison Ford, Luke Skywalker, The Joker, Iron Man, other voices
 * Krypto the Superdog (2005) as Bud
 * Thru the Moebius Strip (2005)
 * Ultimate Avengers 2 (2006)
 * Tom and Jerry: Shiver Me Whiskers (2006)
 * Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles (2006)
 * Metalocalypse (2006) as Senator Stampingston, Mr. Selatcia, Jean-Pierre and others
 * Battle for Terra (2007)
 * SpongeBob SquarePants (2007) Episode 82 as Moth
 * Danny Phantom (2007) voice of Undergrowth
 * My Friends Tigger & Pooh (2007)
 * Robot Chicken: Star Wars (2007)(TV special) as Luke Skywalker
 * Futurama: Bender's Big Score (2007) (voice) (direct-to-DVD) as the Hanukkah Zombie
 * Tasty Time With ZeFronk (2008)
 * The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon (2008) as Malefor
 * The Super Hero Squad Show (2009) as Red Skull, Chthon, Forge
 * Afro Samurai: Resurrection (2009) as Bin
 * Batman: The Brave and the Bold (2010) as The Spectre
 * Darksiders (2010) as The Watcher
 * Dante's Inferno: An Animated Epic (2010) as Alighiero
 * Generator Rex (2010) as Quarry
 * Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (2010) as Klaw
 * Regular Show (2010) as Skips and Additional Voices
 * LEGO Hero Factory (2010) as Von Nebula/Von Ness
 * Zevo-3 (2010) as Dr. Stankfoot
 * Transformers: Prime (2011)
 * Eric Kaplan's Sketch World (2011)

TV shows

 * The Partridge Family Episode: Old Scrapmouth (1971) as Jerry
 * Night Gallery Episode: There Aren't Any More McBanes (1972) (messenger boy)
 * Petrocelli 2 Episodes: The Gamblers (1975) – The Outsiders (1975)
 * The Muppet Show Himself/Luke Skywalker (1980)
 * The Beatles MTV guest host (himself) (1987)
 * The Flash The Trickster (1990)
 * 3rd Rock from the Sun Episode: Fifteen Minutes of Dick (1995) as himself
 * The Outer Limits Episode: Mind over Matter (1996) (Dr. Sam Stein)
 * Space Cases (1996)
 * Space Ghost Coast to Coast (1997) (himself)
 * Just Shoot Me! Episode: "The List" (1998) (Himself)
 * Son of the Beach (2000) as a Cult Leader
 * Regular Show (2010) voices Skips
 * The Simpsons as himself
 * Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force GO! as Skeleton King
 * Chuck Season 5 (2011) as Jean Claude
 * NTSF:SD:SUV:: (2011) as Lundgren
 * The Mandalorian (2020) as Luke Skywalker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:88C0:DD0:8E1:A562:7D2A:D8FB (talk) 09:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Video games

 * Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers (1993) as Detective Mosely and the Jeep Driver
 * Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger (1994) as Colonel Christopher Blair
 * The Adventures of Batman and Robin (1994) as The Joker
 * Full Throttle (1995) as Adrian Ripburger
 * Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom (1995) as Colonel Christopher Blair
 * Wing Commander: Prophecy (1997) as Commodore Christopher Blair
 * Starsiege (1999) as Harabec
 * Batman Vengeance (2001) as The Joker
 * Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix (2002)
 * Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (2002) as Py-Ro
 * X2: Wolverine's Revenge (2003) (voice) Wolverine
 * The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon (2008) Malefor, The Dark Master
 * Crash: Mind over Mutant (2008) as the Znu
 * Batman: Arkham Asylum (2009) as The Joker
 * Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep as Master Eraqus (2010)
 * Darksiders (2010) as The Watcher
 * Marvel Super Hero Squad: The Infinity Gauntlet (2010) as the Red Skull
 * DC Universe Online (2011) as The Joker
 * Batman: Arkham City (2011) as The Joker

Short subjects

 * Earth Day (2001) (voice)
 * Baxter and Bananas (2002) (voice)
 * Burl's (2003) (narrator)
 * Wolf Tracer's Dinosaur Island (2004) (voice)
 * Batman: New Times (2005) (voice)
 * Todd Wainio in World War Z (2006)

Television
184.38.19.227 (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2011
 * Sarah T. - Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic (1975) (TV film) as Ken Newkirk

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2023
Under "personal life" and his support of campaigns and candidates, add "Hamill was also active in the 2022 midterms, endorsing candidates like Tim Ryan for U.S. Senate and Sam Lawrence for State Representative in Ohio. Slawrence1424 (talk) 19:59, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shearonink (talk) 20:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2023
In the "Charity" section, I would suggest deleting the words "was raised for" after the figure "$300,000". These words are redundant with the words "it raised more than" before the "$300,000". Krm55 (talk) 05:02, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tollens (talk) 07:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Mark Hamill’s car crash on January 11, 1977
On January 11, 1977, Mark Hamill was driving his car when he was involved in a life-changing car crash. His car crashed into the jungle. Hamill was critically injured in the crash. He almost died and was sent directly to hospital for treatment after the near-fatal crash. Hamill was 25 then. 74.135.6.88 (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Studio Ghibli
Hammill's page is incorrect as it states "Hamill has done voice acting in English dubs of two Studio Ghibli films. He voiced Colonel Muska in the second English-language version of Castle in the Sky and the Mayor of Pejite in Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, both directed by Hayao Miyazaki and distributed by Disney." He has now done three Ghibli english dubs with the 2023 release of The boy and the Heron as the voice of Grand Uncle. This is under Voice acting - General work 68.187.141.85 (talk) 14:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)