Talk:Mark Mampassi

Nationality/citizenship
I saw an anon user plainly replacing Ukrainian with Russian, but it was unsourced, as well as another user replacing references to his Russian citizenship in the lead. The player has been registered as Russian by the RPL, which means he has Russian citizenship. Ukrainian and Russian wikis seem to have opted to draw a line in 2022 as the year in which he "stopped being Ukrainian" and "started being Russian", so to speak. Does the acquisition of Russian citizenship automatically entail the loss of Ukrainian citizenship? Is it possible for him to be a dual citizen? How should all of this be reflected? Ostalgia (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:MOSETHNICITY—Secondary citizenship belongs in the article body, not the lede. Stop getting annoyed by established and clear consensus. Anwegmann (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Per WP:MOSETHNICITY it's not secondary citizenships that belong in the article body, but "previous nationalities". Frenchl (talk) 19:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Which one can reasonably infer as "other nationalities beyond that which makes him or her notable." This isn't jurisprudence. It's consensus held by a very wide range of editors. I invite either of you to bring this up at WP:FOOTY to rehash and seek a new consensus. I am neutral about it generally; I just seek uniformity across the "field", whatever form that may take. Right now, it's avoiding hyphenation, using proper demonyms, interpreting MOSETHNICITY as meaning secondary, tertiary, etc. nationalities belong in the body not the lede, and ambiguating when there is obvious conflict. I'm totally fine if that changes. But it hasn't yet. Anwegmann (talk) 21:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No, one cannot infer that. Previous nationalities are not "other nationalities". Footballers articles are the only articles on Wikipedia where dual nationalities are forbidden in the lead. You seek uniformity across a field, I seek uniformity across the whole Wikipedia. Frenchl (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It’s rather clear that one can, as many do. And if we start with a field, we can end up at the whole. But we need to be having this discussion somewhere with a wider impact than here. Anwegmann (talk) 22:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)