Talk:Mark Penn

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The page is vandalized as all get-out don't know how to flag! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavelow235 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please just describe any vandalism you see here on the talk page, if you can not fix it yourself. Superm401 - Talk 05:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

"He was Hillary Clinton's chief strategist for most of her 2008 presidential campaign," -- Doesn't that presume her campaign is almost over? It could go to November, if pigs fly. 216.164.33.13 (talk) 03:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

During the last revision, Penn's bio seems to have been erased, including his background and history prior to 2008. I suspect that this is an error. I'm not editing this article, so I won't revert, but the current editors should perhaps look to fix this. Cyoung66 (talk) 10:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Save it for 2050" controversy (copy/paste from CNN)
I have reverted the addition of the following copy/paste from CNN.COM ...

"Save it for 2050" controversy

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A policy memo by Sen. Hillary Clinton's one-time chief strategist challenging Sen. Barack Obama's "American roots" make it difficult to close gaps between the former rivals. In a March 2007 memo, Mark Penn, Clinton's former chief strategist, wrote, "all of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared toward showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting that in a new light. Save it for 2050." It also exposes a very strong weakness for him -- his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values," Penn wrote. Feel free to add the information to the article appropriately. Proofreader77 (talk) 19:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

updates
This article is in need of updates and balance. Help and comments welcome. Solarium2 (talk) 01:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree - serious updates are needed. This reads like it was written by Penn himself. I don't know much about him, but from what I've read in other articles, he was fired by Clinton largely due to his incompetence with the campaign strategy. Sounds like a pretty watered down article overall... 81.243.18.18 (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

To comments on Obama. The President's poll numbers went up significantly after the Tuscon shootings, this was indeed his "Oklahoma City bombing." Penn was absolutely correct with this statement so if the section is intended to create controversy it should be removed.

I also agree with other commenters that this article reads like it was written by Penn or a surrogate. Two especially absurd statements stand out. Mark Penn did not "create" the mall testing methodology for ad and message research in 1993. It long preceded him. In addition the author praises Penn's "strategy for winning" by targeting the women lower/middle class Democratic primary voters. News flash to the author--it was Obama who won the primary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:7E80:18A:705D:B4A5:936C:832E (talk) 04:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)