Talk:Mark Stimson

Defender or midfielder?
My recollection of his period on loan at Gillingham was that he was definitely a defender, but he played far more games for Newcastle, Portsmouth and Southend. What position did he usually play there? Kevin McE (talk) 11:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He certainly played as a defender at Southend - see for example this match report and this preview. I'm going to change the article -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Manager Stats
Can't find the Grays Athletic season stats for 2002/2003. Would've been the Ryman Premier. Anyone know where to find them? I'll complete the Manager stats table once I can source the data. TomorrowsDream (talk) 16:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What's the source for the Grays and Stevenage stats? That data isn't listed on Soccerbase.  Have you done it simply by adding together the clubs' fixtures during the dates concerned?  Grays' league/FA Cup/FA Trophy record for the 2002-03 season can be found here, but they probably also played Isthmian League Cup matches, and possibly county cup matches too...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, have added together the data from their official website archives (Grays and Stevenage . Not adept or confident enough to add references.  Will have a look at the link you sent - thanks!TomorrowsDream (talk) 16:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you added in mickey mouse competitions like the Essex Senior Cup or Thameside Trophy? I just replaced the link I included above with a better one which will allow you to work out which matches fell after he took over mid-season, but it doesn't include such minor tournaments.  Also worth noting is that the W, D and L numbers for Grays, didn't add up to the correct total.  I've knocked one off the "losses" column, you might want to double check that was correct..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, put those minor cup games more in the "friendly" category. One other point, Soccerbase counts cup match penalty wins or losses as draws. Is that right / best? I'll need to revise my figures if so.TomorrowsDream (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, matches decided by shoot-outs should be counted as draws, according to the Laws of the Game such matches are officially counted as having been drawn. Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, all updated with data from Soccerbase including 2002/03 and draws for shoot-outs. Thanks for the help Chris!TomorrowsDream (talk) 17:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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