Talk:Mark Twain School for the Gifted and Talented

Things to edit...
The article is fine and all, but it should be written in third person (Can't have 'our curriculum'). Also, there should probably be a bunch more links to different pages, and try to look for articles that link to this page.

So, if you're editing this:

Our students enjoy learning a varied repertoire of pieces ranging from classical to modern, with stress on vocal quality. Training is received in reading music so that singing music at sight can be accomplished. Music performances will be given on designated occasions as culminating events.

Make it this:

The students involved in the vocal program enjoy learning a varied repertoire of pieces ranging from classical to modern, with stress on vocal quality. Training is received in reading music so that singing music at sight can be accomplished. Music performances will be given on designated occasions as culminating events.

Etc, etc... Don't have time to do anything now.

Burnedthru 21:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I have little time as well. When, however, I do have free time, I'll copy-edit it. Btw, thank you for your contribution. Also, in the March 21, 2007 part, I replaced your edit with what I put originally, which, in my opinion, is more informative and valid. Some other person (71.246.126.34) replaced had replaced that edit with the message stating that the students and teachers have no idea what happened. BlueCanary9999 00:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

Blue Canary, the teachers did have no clue what the incident was, but the most relevant inference was sexual intercourse. Also, BurnedThru, the article is mostly in the 1st person because it was copied straight off the mark twain web page. I didn't even know until I was checking up my homework...

Just a little question, based on the March 21,2007 section on the article. I don't think the teachers still patrol the corridors anymore. The entire school was informed regarding this fact I believe. If anyone knos if this is true, change the section a bit. InternationalEducation 5:25 28 March 2007

True. BlueCanary9999 23:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

Mark Twain
You're in 6th grade in Mark Twain right? I'm currently in 9th, I attended MT, and I know ALOT of people in 8th grade and alot of people who know alot of people in 8th grade, so I know what happened. I even know the "raped" girl's brother. I like your edit of the subject, but that IS the reason why the measures were enacted (why else would girls now have to go to the bathroom in pairs?).

P.S.: By the way, she didn't get forced into it, lol, no need to put that in the article, just letting you know so you can gossip if you want. Burnedthru 23:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm not in sixth grade. I won't say what grade I'm in, however. Nevertheless, you have no proof of what happened (no proof that you can actually put on Wikipedia, anyway), so all we can do is say that it is a rumor and nothing else. And btw, the rule "always was" that girls had to go to the bathrooms in pairs. That was a common rule for many schools in the US, not just Mark Twain. Carol Moore said that she trusted the students, but apparently not as much any more. BlueCanary9999 00:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

Hmm, I'm in sixth grade though... and I think there is no proof because nobody knew what actually happened. Besides, she said all these things during AM homeroom that proved the rumors were wrong. InternationalEducation 11:19, 29 March 2007

I'm just asking, do we actually need the March 21,2007 section on the article? I'm pretty sure other news-related incidents were involved with Mark Twain and if there's only one, the article is not balanced. It would seem like we added something extra, other than the purpose of proposing news.

Hmm, how can we make this entire article third person? I'm thinking that most of the irrelevant percentage rating of this article probably came from the point of view the article is written in. I'm not going to change it because I'm too lazy...

This might be significant or insignificant depending on your opinions, the school changed the way they process for lunch and I think you have to punch in your new pin numbers, which were handed out today. Well, if this isn't actually that important, no point on putting it on the article. But if it is important, then we should put it on the article. Basically my question is, is this important? They completely changed how lunch works, but if we were to write that, its the same as the "unknown" incident. InternationalEducation 8:18, 12 April (UTC)

Hmm... good point. I'll wait for our other colleague, however. BlueCanary9999 01:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

You mean me? I'm not your colleague.... Anyway, AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YOU HAVE TO PUNCH IN FOR LUNCH NOW AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. Add it if you wish... Burnedthru 22:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Punch in for lunch? The fuck is Ms. Moore pushing now? 24.188.131.228 (talk) 00:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

If you wish you can add... InternationalEducation 11:52, 14 April 2007(UTC)

Well, if you're going to leave out the March 21st section for whatever stupid reason, there's no point in putting this in, as it is MUCH more minor. BlueCanary9999 22:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

Links
Not really links but I added a bunch of pages that redirect to this article (ex: mark twain is 239, mark twain 239, mark twain I.S. 239 <- with the space between the . and 239 ) and I also deleted the Mark Twain Intermediate School article and redirected it to this because it was the same thing... Burnedthru 17:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Thank you! Do you think the Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) article should link to it? BlueCanary9999 01:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

The Mark Twain Intermediate School page was a copy of this page. I didn't want to rewrite a whole article so I copy and pasted. InternationEducation 3:08, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot to mention I linked the Mark Twain article to this as well. And why would you make an identical copy of the page when you can just redirect it? Oh and regarding the March 21st events, don't bring that back, it's pretty much useless and there have been many other events that were not written about (like BCB). Burnedthru 15:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Okay, I spent a good hour wikifying the page, the main portion of it being in my 16:06, 4 April 2007 edit, the others are minor edits. Now, we finally have a normal Wikipedia article =) Although we need some images... Burnedthru 16:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Okay, we have a free copyright image... the article is finished. Burnedthru 16:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Thank you very much. Don't images require a copyright? Also, what's BCB? And why not bring it back? Wouldn't you prefer that at least a few of many events were written about instead of none at all? It doesn't harm the article in any way. BlueCanary9999 17:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

The article is so much better now after wikifying it, but I believe there are still some wrong facts. A definite wrong one is the year the school was established. I'll have to ask a staff member about the year. By the way, how dd you get a picture? InternationalEducation 21:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't state anywhere when it was established.... BlueCanary9999 19:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

By free copyright, I meant it is copyrighted and is free to use. And I'll leave you guys with the task of when the school was established because I'm not in the school...

Oh and also, if you are in 7th or 8th grade (assuming that you were telling the truth about not being in 6th grade), then you would probably know what BCB is since it happened last year...Burnedthru 01:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The article says it was esablished on 1972, but i'm pretty sure it was established more than 50 years ago. I have to ask my social studies teacher after vacation to be sure, although he might not know. InternationalEducation 11:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

About the copyright, how did you find it? And, still, can you tell me what is BCB? Maybe the abbreviation is throwing me off. I don't recall it though. And no, the article doesn't say it was established in 1972. BlueCanary9999 22:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * I'm in ninth now, and I don't recall anything called 'BCB.' 24.188.131.228 (talk) 00:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Relevance percentage
Hmm, I was too bored so I figured if we had something to talk about, this section would be nice. InternationalEducation 12:03, 6 April (UTC)

Just a sec, what is the relevance percentage for this article? Although the articles are being redirected the REL% is different and I'm seeing different numbers each time. InternationalEducation 12:08 6 April (UTC)


 * Who cares about relevance percentage? Burnedthru 16:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It shows how good the article is. InternationalEducation 3:23, 7 April (UTC)


 * Somebody was messing up with the article. InternationalEducation 20:07, 9 April (UTC)


 * I changed the title of the article to the proper "Mark Twain I.S. 239" Burnedthru 17:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Not that, he was messing up with the talent section InternationalEducation 9:43, April 2007 (UTC)


 * I know, I was just saying. Burnedthru 20:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think wikipedia was messed up. We probably added to many Mark Twain Intermediate School websites. InternationalEducation 12:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Added what? BlueCanary9999 22:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * I meant links and well I copy and pasted too much hehehehe... Man I still haven't asked my social studies teacher yet about the year Mark Twain was established. It would be stupid to ask something unrelated to class. InternationalEducation 5:40, April 2007 (UTC)


 * I do that all the time... Burned  thru  04:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Guys, if the Mark Twain website is copyrighted. We're doomed. We have to change the entire website before we're suspects of illegal acts. InternationalEducation 3:55, 20 April (UTC)


 * Is it close enough to be considered plagiarism? And we did cite the site.  BlueCanary9999 21:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * Well, around half of this article is identical to the one on the Mark Twain website. We can be arrested to be honest if the site is copyrighted. InternationalEducation 8:05, 21 April (UTC)


 * By the way, who copied the Mark Twain website page to this article? I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of us. I think it was copied and added onto this article right after I had written the first page InternationalEducation 10:36, 21 April (UTC)


 * Some random guy kinda popped on and put it in. Look in the history if you'd like.  And nice use of synonyms.  BlueCanary9999 03:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * If I deleted this page, I might eliminate some clues of who it might be. I mean we're the only ones using the discussion page. InternationalEducation 9:26, 22 April (UTC)


 * I'm just guessing, but there's a slim chance the page isn't copyrighted. I can't see any copyright symbols on it or a word of warning. Even if they sued us, I think we can fight back... InternationalEducation 9:31, 22 April (UTC)


 * Delete this discussion page, you mean? They could just look in the history of this page.  They could also simply look in the history of the actual article to find out.
 * I'm not so sure they'd really care that much even if it was copyrighted, too.
 * BlueCanary9999 23:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * Well, I think its kind of rare that they would check the history page. I check the discussion page around 20 times before I check a history page. InternationalEducation 17:16, 22 April (UTC)


 * If they wanted real proof of who did it, they'd have to check the history page. BlueCanary9999 02:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * Quite true, I guess we're safe InternationalEducation 16:44, 24 April (UTC)


 * ... I should've went on earlier and addressed this. If wikipedia found this article to be a copyright violation, they would just start a talk page about whether or not to delete it. If the majority voted to delete it, then they (Wiki admins) would just delete the article. The only time that they would do something to the editors of the article would be when the actual site (where the info is from) sues wikipedia itself which is really doubtful. Burned  thru  20:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If they deleted this... 1 year of work? InternationalEducation 19:13, 30 April (UTC)
 * There's quite a problem. The article is changing over a bit. I thought I replaced some words with synonyms, but its being replaced again by the original words. Is it better to use a copy rather than our own? InternationalEducation 23:29, 5 May (UTC)


 * Would they delete it? I assume they'd (as in the admins and us) would simply fix it.  No need to delete the article.
 * No, definitely not. A copy isn't what we want.  The simplest way to word the message is.  Who's been reverting your edits?

Okay, so who's been reverting my edits?


 * Burnedthru. BlueCanary9999 03:08, 7 May 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * I understand you wanted to change the article to avoid "plagiarism" but where the hell did you find those synonyms? Don't tell me you copied it onto Microsoft Word and just replaced them from the thesaurus because those words didn't exactly fit in context. Burned  thru  23:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, besides the fact that I don't use Microsoft Word or any related sources, it came from dictionary.com. Also, I do believe it matches. Something I find unmatching of wikipedia is plagiarism.


 * The alleviation scheme conjured by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was developed by Professor Dan Dodson of New York University and would have enforced the busing of pupils ubiquitously over the district for grasping integration. The school board's idea was alternation of Mark Twain into a magnet school


 * If you're telling me that that makes sense then you're crazy... Burned thru  22:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on dictionary.com it made sense to me... Well, still better than plagiarising. If, wikipedia is going to have to delete this article, everything would go to waste.


 * It is rather... over-eloquent, if you will. However, Wikipedia won't delete it -- they'll unplagiarize it.  BlueCanary9999 01:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * They'll edit it themselves? Cool. O well, just hope the article goes good.


 * No, "Wikipedia" won't "un-plagiarize" it - you need to re-write it. Plagiarism is not ok, even when you have the cite, unless you actually put the quoted material in quotes.  So you ought to take another look at the article and its source and re-write it.  Cutting and pasting from somewhere else is not ok here or anywhere you write. Deletion is always an option - don't assume someone else will do your work for you.  Tvoz | talk 16:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I've done quite a bit of revisions recently. The last thing to be fixed would be the history, which is... kinda fine as it is.  BlueCanary9999 20:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Please,
Please, gifted & talented persons, do note the differences:
 * Samuel_Langhorne_Clemens
 * Samuel_Longhorn_Clemens
 * lang
 * long

Thank You,

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Something may have inadvertently gone wrong w/ the image.

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 * o_O The article is for a school named Mark Twain.  Not the person.  BlueCanary9999 22:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999


 * So?


 * Insisting on calling him "longhorn"; then, calling that practice "gifted & talented"?


 * What does that make of an illiterate, like me?


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 * It doesn't say "longhorn" anywhere in the article.... BlueCanary9999 02:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

This giftedness talentedness was there before me:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=156170198&oldid=156170130 >.

To format an article is one thing; but, I do perceive my signed messages on a much more personal basis,... please.

If I do missssssssssssssszzzzzzzzzpell, or whatever, I might choose to correct it, or not.

However, the primary articles, need shorter horns; except f/ Sam's "a", "e".

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misspell  format

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I'm... sorry. I'm not so sure what you're saying. Please rephrase it. BlueCanary9999 13:49, 14 September 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999
 * This has been taken care of. See elsewhere on this page. Tvoz | talk 06:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't we add a Kennedy Jenkins section?
Sort of an important phenomena.

The what? Elaborate, please. BlueCanary9999 01:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)BlueCanary9999

< http://google.as/search?q=%22kennedy+jenkins%22+%22%22+%22twain%22+%22%22 >.

I do not know what that is,...

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Once again, please read the link:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=156170198&oldid=156170130 >.

If I could discuss it in a telephone-call, then, I could show it to you.

It is, simply, a fact of what you had had.

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Aside from the fact of "langhorne" misspelt as "longhorn", that paragraph's syntax  is scrambled.

This article is nearly a year old; how long has it been like this??:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=92854939&oldid=92854854 >????

If a warning to you "gifted" & "talented" about spelling cannot be in the article, where else can it be?? It must be in the article, if you did not notice it f/ a year.

Why is it that such an illiterate as me can see your spelling, grammar, syntax, where you cannot???? Maybe you could pay a sin tax  to your  grammar.

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 * Hopiakuta, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying. To unconfuse me, please simply tell me what you want done.  BlueCanary9999 23:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I see what he is talking about - nothing more has to be done on this. The spelling error was fixed - the explanatory text isn't needed.  No one noticed the error, is all.  If there are persistent reverts to incorrect spelling of Langhorne, the hidden text can go back in directing editors to the correct spelling - right now it really is unnecessary, and in no case would we include the sentence in the article text talking about how people often misspell the name- that is a meta comment not appropriate for this article.   Hopiakuta, the way it is now is fine.  Tvoz | talk 06:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * So "Langhorne" was mis-spelt as "Longhorn" here? And Hopiakuta was suggesting that we add a line about the common mis-spelling?  BlueCanary9999 20:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

errors to be fixed
Most of you have modems; but, not one telephone.

Simply walk into the wikilinks:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=92854939&oldid=92854854 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=162115257&oldid=160089157 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samuel_Longhorn_Clemens&diff=160260364&oldid=157031166 >.

After my comments on the articlepage  & the  discussionpage, where else??

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< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=156170198&oldid=156170130 >.

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 * Nothing further needs to be done on any of these diffs - they have been taken care of or are not changes that are needed. Tvoz | talk 06:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone has removed some of my comments; I have not yet checked whom. It is very damning f/ people to delete rather than add their own comment.

Anyhow, my goal was, substantially, to have someone accede to the spelling that I had changed; that is partially accomplished. I hope that it will sustain.

Also, inspiring the syntax is helpful. If a school writes an article, the description of its own mascot should be considered amongst the most fundamental, crucial, such as any easily verifiable data.

So, much of what my mission had been regarding this page is achieved; thank you.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=162189719&oldid=162119509 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Twain_Intermediate_School_239&diff=162118483&oldid=162117327 >.

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==Losing talent programs=

Aren't we losing our talent programs? We got sued and I think we lost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.158.81 (talk) 22:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What? Do you have an article on this?  Or a handout you can scan?  BlueCanary9999 (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I do not have an article. It's made in school announcements before and everybody was talking about it a lot. The girl couldn't have made it in whichever race she belonged to. She ruined it for ALL of us. We're losing the talent programs and there is nothing we can do about it.


 * That's appalling. I'll ask one of my old teachers. BlueCanary9999 (talk) 23:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I highly doubt it. I just read my school paper (Stuyvesant's "The Spectator") and they were discussing junior high schools, one of which was Mark Twain. And they described how the school has the talent programs and the admissions tests, etc... So I doubt MT lost the programs, unless of course the paper is unaware of it (which I highly doubt as I said). Edit: What happened to marktwainis239.org? Why is the site at schoolwires.com now? Anyway, I checked it and if the talent programs were really gone, wouldn't they have updated it (and yes, they do update the site as the last update was March 5th). Burned  thru  23:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Was this all because of "Bumble into Bosco Day"? That was over twenty years ago!! DishPanHead  Head  23:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.240.196 (talk)

New Talents
Found out about it recently, though I think they were added a year ago already. It's on their website too: http://is239.schoolwires.com/1403101119542027/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=54763 Burned thru  21:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I saw the site. But I asked a friend whose brother goes to Twain, and he said those talents don't exist.  Or at least, for now.  I suspect the testing for those three new talents started this year, and the talents begin this coming year.  Would it be appropriate to add them now?  Or should we wait?  BlueCanary9999 (talk) 02:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Those talents belong to other schools. Paul Rubin told this to me when I gave some suggestions for new talents in the blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.158.81 (talk) 02:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * More talents? As if the Math test wasn't easy enough, now they're letting in more dipshits? 24.188.131.228 (talk) 00:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

February 2024 - School receiving international news attention
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/nyc-middle-schoolers-seen-thrashing-eighth-grader-in-horrifying-video-10-arrested-101707019593843.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13042049/Horrific-moment-TEN-Gifted-Talented-middle-schoolers-viciously-beat-student-NYC-bus-saying-weirdo-f-ing-deserved-shoulda-died-cuffed.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEaYZc9hLNI

https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/metro/nyc-school-kids-arrested-over-caught-on-video-bus-beatdown/

https://twitter.com/NYCSchoolSafety/status/1752397170857144769

Mn06hithere227 (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2024 (UTC)