Talk:Mark Weinberg (judge)

Copyright problem
Unfortunately, the text of this article appears to have been copied or closely paraphrased from the copyright text at the FCA website. While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation – including both structure and language – are. For an example of close paraphrasing, consider the following: The source says:


 * He graduated Bachelor of Arts / Bachelor of Laws (Hons) from Monash University, and BCL from the University of Oxford. He was formerly Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Melbourne. He was called to the Victorian Bar in 1975 and appointed Queen’s Counsel in 1986. He was Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions from 1988 until 1991.

The article says:


 * He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws (Honors) from Monash University, and with a Bachelor of Civil Law from the University of Oxford. At the University of Melbourne Weinberg was formerly Dean of the Faculty of Law. In 1975 he was called to the Victorian Bar. In 1986 he was appointed Queen’s Counsel and from 1988 until 1991 he was Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions.

I've bolded the precise copying. Unfortunately, just moving the position of the dates or otherwise changing the order of the sentence is not enough to avoid the copyright problem. It is difficult when there are only a limited number of ways of saying something but the policy states: "... closely paraphrasing extensively from a non-free source may be a copyright problem, even if it is difficult to find different means of expression..."

As a website that is widely read and reused, Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously to protect the interests of the holders of copyright as well as those of the Wikimedia Foundation and our reusers. Wikipedia's copyright policies require that the content we take from non-free sources, aside from brief and clearly marked quotations, be rewritten from scratch. So that we can be sure it does not constitute a derivative work, this article should be revised to separate it further from its source. The essay Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

If I can be any help, let me know.--CharlieDelta (talk) 08:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no complex wording to be plagiarized here. If you know how to say "At the University of Melbourne" in a unique way I would love to hear it. Brightgalrs ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 10:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * In fact, there exists a policy on this very thing. The examples there are very relevant. Brightgalrs ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 10:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Absolutely relevant,I agree, which is why I quoted the policy in my first comment. The issue is not so much that there are only a very few ways to say "...he graduated with xx degree from xxx University", more that the whole article appears to be a close paraphrase of the single copyright source. Ideally the article should be rewritten from scratch using information from more than one source. The section on How to write acceptable content is quite helpful on this point. However, I think the best thing to do in this case is to ask an expert to take a look.--CharlieDelta (talk) 06:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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