Talk:Mars Automatic Pistol

Tambien se habla de este arma en la novela de Ken Follet, la caída de los gigantes página 872. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.116.102.209 (talk) 11:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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Mars revolver
Note 4 talks about a "Mars revolver", as does the VfD; I thought that the Mars range of pistols were all semi-automatic single-chamber weapons. If there were also revolvers using the Mars name, shouldn't the article say something about them, or at least link to a relevant page?

-- Chris  ( blather  •  contribs )  20:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


 * "Mars revolver" article was subject of a deletion/move to Mars Automatic Pistol on April 1 2005. Right off the bat, I would say the confusion was the generic tendancy of non-technical people to use "revolver" and "pistol" interchangably for "handgun" (in a similar confusion, for civilians "automatic" is a synonym for "semi-automatic" but in military/police use "automatic" means "full auto" machinegun except for the Mars Automatics, the Colt Automatics and a few others). Or it could have been an April Fool prank.


 * Bergmann made a semi-auto pistol called 'Mars' 1907-1918, and there was a Czech .25 Browning-clone called the 'Mars', none of which are connected to the Gabbett-Fairfax Mars. Mars as god of war is a name that may have been used by makers as well. 67.232.92.77 (talk) 21:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Image request
I've submitted a permission request for an image for this article. Hopefully I'll hear more soon. The image I'm after can be found on this website. Kartano (talk) 04:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Done - I've received the author's permission today and uploaded the file. Permission email forwarded to permissions-en.  Kartano (talk) 23:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Recoil
Warning: "Original Research" follows! A muzzle energy of 1000 J is still considered excessive, even by today's standards. It's rather close to the original spec of the 10 mm Auto, which in its time was routinely rejected by police agencies for its unpleasantness. Now there are many recreational shooters and hunters who don't mind even much heavier loads, but considering the distance from the axis of the barrel to the back of the handgrip (where the web of the thumb sits), and comparing this measurement with that in a modern handgun, gives the impression, that muzzle flip must have been very pronounced, and even today very few would enjoy regularly shooting this abomination. Just my two cents. --BjKa (talk) 13:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Improvements
The article could be improved by some important information. Unfortunately I don't have the means to verify these facts: claimed by Ian "Forgotten Weapons" McCollum on youtube. --BjKa (talk) 14:37, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * A total of around 80 guns were made
 * There never was a mass production, all guns were hand made
 * All have slight differences to each other. With parts being hand fitted and every incarnation being slightly redesigned it is highly unlikely that any parts from two guns are interchangeable
 * None of the known examples has been proofmarked
 * Most likely not a single gun was sold commercially