Talk:Mars Society/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 23:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Jumping in to start this review. I will be leaving comments in the table below. I should get round to adding comments tomorrow. Looking forward to getting started!  Unexpected lydian♯4 talk‽  23:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Replies by the nominator
I write my replies here to avoid cluttering the table. Forgive me if I had complicated the GA reviewing process. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 13:07, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 1a: Done, with some adjustments to the recommendations for the lead and the Mars analog habitats section. The "collaboration issues" in the source are quote "Results from this first attempt [...] revealed a number of issues (e.g., multicultural conflicts, coping inefficiencies) that underscored the need for longer studies situated in real environments that pose true isolation and risk.", and I paraphrased that on Wikipedia as "which revealed cultural conflicts and inadequate coping strategies".
 * 1b: I expanded to lead to talk about how MDRS and FMARS operates in general and splited the "Mars analog habitats" section to be "Construction of Mars analog habitats" and "Research and engagement activities" for clarity. I don't really want to combine both of the sections because I want to expand on other aspects of the Mars Society's activities.
 * 2b:
 * "The first four-month-long mock mission was done in early 2007, revealing collaboration issues between the crews" Removed "early"
 * "Except for the pod, the modules are connected via tunnels" fixed
 * "In December that year, the MDRS's construction in Hanksville, Utah" fixed
 * "Two years later at the next Mars launch window, two launch vehicles, one carrying crew and habitat, and the other carrying another factory and Earth-return vehicle for the next mission" The details is in "In January 1999, NASA would launch two more Ares rockets. One payload would be identical to the 1996 propellant..." in the source, which I subtracted January 1999 by December 1996 to get roughly 2 years. If you want, I can provide an additional source for that.
 * "one-twentieth of the Mars plan in NASA's Space Exploration Initiative" yes, that's what the text is referring to, as the whole source is talking about SEI
 * "with four thousand mails and emails sent to Zubrin by readers" fixed
 * "On 13 August 1998" Well, this is complicated. The source is written in Aug. 18, 1998 and says "And, last week, ... the founding convention of the Mars Society" and "four-day event -- it ended Sunday". By deduction, that is 13 August 1998. This is a pretty roundabout way to get the date because there is literally no other source that says the full date (not even the Mars Society itself) but I'm more than happy to chop the days if you want to.
 * "The first Mars analog facility of the Mars Society is the Flashline Mars Arctic Research Station..." Yes, the Mars Society built and owned the station. Rephrased a bit to make it more clear.
 * "The MARS Oz is also in the planning phase by the Australian Mars Society" seems so as I found a source in October 2022, though the plan is not named "Mars Oz" anymore.

User:Unexpectedlydian, may you put the review on hold or even fail the review outright? Based on your comments at 3a and 3b, I think that I need a lot more time than what GAN allows in order for me to build up the article's content. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @CactiStaccingCrane, thank you for responding to my comments so quickly. I think that's a sensible request. I will complete all parts of the review first, then I think I will have to fail it based on criteria 3. If you're planning to add further content into the article, that's great and please do! However, I agree that it requires more time than the GA process usually allows for. If you have any questions at all please do get in touch :)  Unexpected lydian♯4 talk‽  15:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)