Talk:Martha Rockwell

Nonfree image misuse
, please note that nonfree images are, except in some extremely exceptional cases, considered replaceable in BLPs. The exceptions would be things like the person is a long-term recluse, imprisoned for life, a fugitive who no one knows the whereabouts of, etc. In this case, however, the image is not only replaceable but replaced. The question for NFCC #1 is "Do we have a photograph of the article subject?", not "Do we have the article subject at a particular place, time, doing a particular thing, etc.?". Allowing that kind of fine parsing would make NFCC #1 a dead letter, since you could always find something unique about the nonfree image. We have a free photo of the article subject. You did state you know who the photographer is, so you could ask them if they're willing to release the photo under CC-BY-SA. Maybe they are, and that'd solve the whole issue. Seraphimblade Talk to me 13:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your fuller explanation, here. I see that you do understand my point about NFCC #1, but I feel that WP:NFCC doesn't suggest exercising the same degree of caution that you describe, above. Rockwell was notable as a skier, not as an elderly person. Therefore, I feel that the case is strong to show her in the milieu for which she was noted, especially since imagery of that era is rare. Further, I don't feel that the use of the image violates WP:NFCC, despite the doubtful quality of the image. I am actively working to replace the image with one of clearer provenance and better quality. In the meantime, I would suggest that this image is informative to those interested in cross-country skiing and harmless to the copyright holder. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 14:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * All that may be true, but we always use free media in preference to nonfree, even when it's not as nice. "No one will sue us" is not a nonfree rationale. We use free media instead of nonfree, not in addition to. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Please can involved be aware of WP:3RR. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 14:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)