Talk:Martin 4-0-4

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. This article barely qualifies under Military History. Operation use by the USN and USCG really needs to be expanded.--dashiellx (talk) 13:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Name
Just to note due to the recent attempt to change the name, the FAA Type Certificate (link added in article) shows the aircraft as the Martin 404 that is 4 zero 4 not 4 capital O 4. Need to provide a reference that the Federal Aviation Authority got it wrong. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

In the same way the Piper Cherokee is a PA-28 and the Bellanca Decathlon is an 8KCAB, the Martin 4-O-4 is a 404P (no hyphens) if it was the prototype, a 404E if it was originally built for Eastern, a 404T if it was originally built for TWA, and a 404C if it was originally built for the Coast Guard. Unlike Factory Model Numbers 202 and 303, there was never a just-plain 404. See http://www.marylandaviationmuseum.org/pdf/404_spec.pdf. I lived <30 miles from Martin State Airport in Maryland, home of the Martin Museum. I asked the oldies up there about the name; they told me that Glenn Martin himself decided that if people were going to call the airplane "two-oh-two" it may as well have that name. That continued with the 3-O-3 and the 4-O-4. I got pretty much the same story when I visited the Airline History Museum (formerly Save-a-Connie) in Kansas City. See http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/martin.htm. My dad worked for Eastern, and later for Southern. While he was at Southern I was given my very own copy of a Martin flight manual, and it most definitely said 4-O-4 (not 4O4 or 404) on the cover. People at both airlines just called them Martins.JScottJ (talk) 02:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh, not to be obtuse, but this is what you got? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC).