Talk:Martin J. Goodman

Suggested Warning
The information on this page is a word-for-word copy of the biography on Goodman's own website (see here), which makes it no more than self-promotion. However, author seems interesting enough to have an entry, so suggest a warning to readers. Woodpig (talk) 14:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

2010
Readers should be aware that Martin Goodman's website describes his book 'On Sacred Mountains' as 'an important spiritual document', citing the Guardian, and that he does the same thing on his 'From the Author' comment on amazon.co.uk, but as anyone who reads the original review will see, it was a hatchet job. Follow the link and read it for yourself: it is a piece of unrestrained ridicule, ending: 'Either an important spiritual document, or an admonitory example of the effects of oxygen deprivation.' Goodman's ability to keep a straight face while using half this quotation to link his name to a national newspaper suggests sharp practice and charlatanism, entirely of a piece with the cut-and-paste biography imported here from his website. I suggest a complete rewrite or deletion of his page altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.124.35 (talk) 19:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Belatedly addressed: the full Guardian sentence is now included. I noticed that his books page now includes the whole Guardian quote. --Lexein (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Martin Goodman's work is utter tripe. It just shows you where moneyed determination can get you. If he really is some sort of teacher of creative writing, well, that explains a lot about today's level of education. His wikipedia entry is probably the best work of fiction he's done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.27.17.187 (talk) 09:37, 13 September 2010

2011
IMDB page for the Song of Lunch shows that book was adapted for TV by Niall McCormick, not Martin Goodman. Hull University page claiming Goodman is the adapter would therefore seem to be wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.198.251.134 (talk) 11:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

'An intimate of some of the day's top spiritual leaders', 'spared from being the prophet of a new world order' - what is this, OK Magazine meets the Dalai Lama? Since as already noted parts of this page are word for word copies of Martin Goodman's website I move for deletion of these passages. Article needs a neutral tone, not pseudoreligious exhibitionism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.166.22 (talk) 13:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

2012
If this author gets an obituary one day, it would have to be short: Fantasist, self-publicist, purveyor of dull prose ;gave vanity publishing a bad name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.197.30 (talk) 12:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Include a reference to the ‘Martin Goodman Constant’ in mathematics? The Martin Goodman Constant is a number equivalent to infinity raised to the power of the square root of minus one, or otherwise the number of unpublished novels which Martin Goodman is boasting on his blog about writing at any given time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.89.207 (talk) 14:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Construction notes
For encyclopedic articles on Wikipedia, we don't use embedded links, we use inline citations instead. See WP:REFB. And there's certainly no need for both embedded links and inline citations. It took a long time to clean up this article, moving and expanding the embedded links to full citations, especially since many of the links had been allowed to rot (see WP:LINKROT), and were tedious to locate either archived versions, or to locate the new website where the information was moved. This has been a public service message for the editors of this page. Defensive article writing, that is, best practice to defend against link rot, is to archive sources as you go using either the Wayback Machine or Webcitation. --Lexein (talk) 11:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

The 'Larkin Centre' appears to be defunct - link in the references here doesn't work, and links on University of Hull website all seem to be to material at least several years old. Delete references here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.30.102 (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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 * I looked around for substitutes, and found nothing except profiles directly by Goodman or his publisher. Makes me think it might not be noteworthy without independent sources. --Ronz (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

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In case something here might be used as a reference. --Ronz (talk) 18:07, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Guardian review of On Sacred Mountains
 * Scientific and Medical Network Review for Suffer and Survive
 * Review of Suffer and Survive, The Lancet
 * The Scotsman's Review of Suffer and Survive
 * The Martin Goodman page on Caffeine Nights
 * Interview with Steven Saylor
 * Interview with Kate Mosse
 * Philip Larkin Centre Interview with DBC Pierre
 * Goodman interviews himself on his self-published novel Ectopia

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