Talk:Martin Scorsese/Archive 2

Note on pronunciation of Scorsese?
Perhaps the initial paragraph of the article should provide IPA transcriptions of his last name? "Scorsese" is most commonly pronounced so that it rhymes with "crazy", but the man himself pronounces it to rhyme with "Jessie" (he introduced himself with this pronunciation when he co-hosted Roger Ebert's show, as you can hear here ). I think both pronunciations should be noted.


 * Try to find a few other examples where he uses that pronounciation himself. I know that some of those that work with him regularly pronounce it so that it's more of a 's' sound at the end. It is possible for people to pronounce their own name strangely in just one instance. -- SteveCrook 17:02, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The American Heritage Dictionary lists only the "Jessie" pronunciation, and this definitely seems to be the pronunciation that he uses in the recording. Most people use the "crazy" pronunciation, but I think that in cases like this, the pronunciation used by the person themself has to be considered the correct one. --Lazar Taxon 06:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Now someone has added the Italian pronunciation. Does that belong here, considering that he is not from Italy? --Lazar Taxon 18:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

A better picture of Scorsese
it's legal too.

Little Italy?
In the Goodfellas section it says something like - returning to Little Italy (referring to both Raging Bull and Goodfellas being set in Little Italy). Well, are both or either film set in Little Italy, Manhattan. Jake LaMotta was the Bronx Bull but that doesn't neccesarily mean the film was set in the Bronx (people move). Was Goodfellas set in Manhattan? Both feature the Copacabana right? Is that in Manhattan? Alexbonaro 01:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I probably can't help much, having not seen Raging Bull, but I know for a fact that the Copacabana is currently located in Manhattan. Wether it was based there during either Raging Bull or Goodfellas is beyond me. It may be that those who do most, dream most. (talk) 03:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

all that Oscar info for The Aviator?
Do we really need all that tedious Oscar info for The Aviator? Is it really imporatnt to know that Alan Alda won an Academy Award for it? This page is supposed to be about the career of Scorsese. I think it makes irrelevant dull reading. Anyone agree? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.190.4.10 (talk) 15:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

Why is "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" completely glossed-over?
It's certainly Scorsese's first big success and there are far more obscure films (like many shorts that have never been released on home video in any form) that are mentioned.

It features an Academy Award-winning performance by Ellen Burstyn, had two additional Oscar nominations and spawned a popular television series that ran for 9 seasons. It's an essential part of Scorsese's history and it's omission is pretty baffling. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GuruAskew (talk • contribs) 06:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

There was a small section on Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore which was removed several months back. I hadn't noticed, I was just prompted to investigate after your query. I've put it back, feel free to expand it. I have no idea who removed it. Aren't there any people keeping a proper eye on this page? It's a sad fact but this article peaked in quality about 6 months ago and since then people have been taking valid, vital information out without so much as a remark. 62.190.4.10 15:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Rolling Stones Concert Film
I was reading the Scorsese article for the first time today;really appreciated all the information. Since there are future film projects listed, has anyone thought about making mention of the upcoming Rolling Stones concert film or documentary project that Scorsese is working on? I've read a little bit about it, but would like to know more. Thanks... 66.75.13.97 18:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)Randy
 * Since all material in Wikipedia is supposed to be supported by citations to reliable sources, coverage of future events is limited to plans for future events that have been reported by reliable sources. If you know of or can find reliable sources, you can add the information to the article yourself. Remember that everything in Wikipedia has been added by people like you and me. Information is added to articles when someone is interested enough to do so. -- Donald Albury 13:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * See article: Shine a Light (film) - Ozzykhan 21:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, here it comes
Since he won, this should be fun. Tmrobertson 05:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, a lot of stuff to change. It seems like most of the article is about him never winning. He's made way too many great films to have never previously won a directing Oscar Maxwagner7 05:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

He Finally Won!
I guess we have to remove the section that talks about him being one of the few who have been nominated numerous times but never won... Congrats Marty. You deserved it. : ehmjay 05:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
I updated the Oscar information, but someone added more detail to my update.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bear199 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

No King of Comedy?
I'm surprised there isn't any biographical history on The King of Comedy. It was considered one of his most provocative and controversial works for many years. Certainly it's a more interesting piece than After Hours. Any thoughts? Infamous30 06:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yikes
All of the references are simple URLs, with no information about their writers, organizations, or access dates. I'll start fixing them, and weeding out references which aren't in line with Reliable sources, if there are any. --Wasted Sapience 15:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Intro tweek
I tweeked the intro abit. Cheers, --Tom 14:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Priest hood
How come there's no mention of him wanting to become a priest, but got out when another priest said that the nam was a holy war (Rolling stone 40 years).--Kingforaday1620 21:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

NPOV Tag
Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see anything that warrants a NPOV tag in the The Departed section. I'd remove it, but maybe someone has an argument for it being there? Coffin 00:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Time to Delete "Future Projects"
In my opinion, the Future Projects section needs to be deleted. Many of them are unreliable speculation, without cited sources. And the ones that do cite sources are still pretty tentative. They might never come to fruition. So, why include them in an encyclopedia? Scorsese is a busy guy, with all sorts of projects in the works. The films are only notable -- and worthy of inclusion here -- if they get released.

Can anyone make a case for keeping this section? --Jeremy Butler 11:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hearing no defense of Future Projects and noting 'Wikipedia is not a crystal ball' (WP:NOT), I have deleted that section as part of a general clean-up. Also, I think this article has way too much detail on individual films. They should be forked into a separate article, in my opinion. --Jeremy Butler 11:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I feel that instead of functioning as an actual biography (talking about Scorsese), it focuses on his filmography (talking about his movies). It may be that those who do most, dream most. (talk) 03:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Director's Trademarks
How is director's trademarks part of a trivia section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CJMylentz (talk • contribs) 03:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is usually where I see them listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.191.205.78 (talk) 01:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Casino - POV issues?
I feel that it would be better off to just note that many critics enjoyed the film, instead of saying "the fact remains that Casino is a technical accomplishment, running up to three hours in length". I hardly feel it's up to Wikipedia to decide which films are accomplishments. I'd do it right now, but would like to get the approval of at least one user. It may be that those who do most, dream most. (talk) 03:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Nobody needs to bother anymore. I got rid of it, as well as a reference to De Niro being legendary, which seemed a bit fanboyish. MwNNrules (talk) 00:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt
This movie is listed under Scorsese's filmography for 2009, but he only has one picture coming out in 2009, Shutter Island. In fact, there hasn't been any news about the Roosevelt biopic for over a year. At the moment, there's only rumors about what Marty's going to do after Shutter Island, so since nobody knows what's up next, I think that Roosevelt (and Silence) should be removed from his filmography until there's some solid news about it.TheLastAmigo (talk) 06:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers priority assessment
Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Untitled George Harrison documentary?
Last time I checked, I thought he was planning to make one and release it in 2009.

Did it get canceled for the Bob Marley one? :(

Raging Bull's Proportinality
So; I have seen this great movie on tv lately again. Remarkable is the way of camera shifting and changing perspektives. The most impressing point is in doing that, the relation between the figure jack's subjektive and the way the camera looks upon him. How a winner looses and how a looser win(s) is created by the expectation of circles and angles. May be his former dog looks at him this way..... There is no heroism in and the so called "insecure males-" reveal their uncertenty by acting on prisoning their wifes, harassing people and claiming by violence. It#s real and witout sentiment! Colour would disturb.-84.63.112.88 (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Martin Scorsese Portal
i have come here to suggest starting up a Martin Scorsese portal to improve, highlight promote and look after Scorsese-related articles. i'm just wondering if there is anyone on here interested in my idea. Kilnburn (talk) 00:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)