Talk:Marv Albert/Archive 1

Creepy
Guy sounds like a creep

Source
Need a source for this, or is it a joke?
 * He was embroiled in sexual scandal involving two [reindeer]s who when asked said that "It was a very interesting experience indeed, and we don't mind doing it again."

Lawsuit
Marv was taken off the air after a contretemps (arrest? lawsuit?) in which his longtime girlfriend/mistress decided she didn't care for his sexual practices (nipping, women's underwear) anymore. It probably should be mentioned. No reindeer were involved. Ortolan88

Question
A character named "Marv Albert" was featured in the first few episodes of MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch. I imagine this character was based off the real Marv Albert, although I am not sure if he himself did the voice or not. He was my favorite character without a doubt. He was dropped w/out explanation in the storyline, as far as I know. How come none of this was not mentioned in this article? And, why was none of this mentioned in the article about Celebrity Deathmatch?

Annoying
In some way, it has to be mentioned that Albert is a very annoying sportscaster. -Amit

Jewish-American
I'm curious about the term "Jewish-American" used at the beginning of the article. What relevance does it have to his sportscasting career, or to his life in general? Nothing against his beliefs at all, but it somewhat reminds me how some news reports here in my home state of Alabama would refer to the race of a person mentioned, even when it had absolutely nothing to do with the story. Just curious.Realkyhick 03:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

NBA JAMS
Should'nt there be a section about his voice and phrases being immortalized in the classic basketball video game "NBA JAMS"?76.20.176.60 21:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, because he wasn't in NBA JAM. It was a bad impression & the guy used Marv's catch-phrases as well as other announcer's phrases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.214.140 (talk) 22:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

News Center 4 Blooper
In the 1970s, Albert was the sports reporter on WNBC-TV's News Center 4 (a local news program broadcast from 5PM to 7PM, noted for its Battlestar Gallactica-style set).

On one of the broadcasts, after Albert had finished his report (and presumably said something either a little untoward or a double-entredre) the show went into a commercial break (this usually involves switching to a studiowide camera and playing the theme music).

While this was occurring, another male News Center 4 cast member was overheard (because either he was still on mic or the theme music did not play loudly enough or both) saying, "Marv, you're a pervert. You know that?"

If anyone has a copy of this blooper on tape, then please consider uploading it and linking it to a tastefully written passage in the article. (Tasteful, please.)

72.82.210.80 20:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Popular quotations, calls and utterances
As noted by somebody else, this entire section is original research. Cite a source that lists these as "popular," or remove it entirely. I've already tried, only to have some self appointed wiki-cop called AngelOfSadness call it vandalism and put it back, exhibiting a desire to issue warnings and wield illusory power rather than think about what "Original Research" and "Unverified Claims" actually means. 24.4.253.249 00:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you're going to get THAT bent out of shape over it, just take out the word popular. I mean dude, calm down. And being a jerk and rude isn't going to help your case move along any faster. FamicomJL 02:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Archiving
I set up archiving on this talk page due to some outdated comments.  jj137  (talk)  22:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Actual birth year?
Hey, does anyone know Marv Albert's actual birth year? For a while, the article said it was 1940, but recently I found it was edited to 1941. What is it? Is it 1940 or 1941? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbrainkt (talk • contribs) 03:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Quotes
Some of the quotes attributed to Marv seem to be a little too general. Ex: "And the game is tied at [score]." There isn't anything unique or substantial in that quote....maybe someone could clean up this section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.170.182 (talk) 09:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Albert's Attorney
It claims Albert's attorney in the 1997 sexual assault case was Jack Dunphy. However, when you click the link that takes you to Jack's home page it appears Mr. Dunphy died in 1992. This would lead me to believe without a shadow of doubt that this man did not represent Marv Albert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.251.190.106 (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Style
Albert has a tendency to pick on or tease his co-announcers in a joking way. Mike Fratello, dubbed the "Czar of the Telestrator" by Albert, is often the object of Albert's humor. Albert's tendency may be symptomatic of a sadistic streak apparently manifested in the 1997 back-biting incident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.162.62 (talk) 14:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Discrepancy in "New York Knicks (MSG)" Section
In this section it says he was the voice of the Knicks for over 50 years beginning in 1967. This doesn't add up. Not sure what the facts are, but if the years stated in this section are correct, "for over 35 years" would make the most sense (1967-2004). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.80.213.38 (talk) 17:28, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Sexual assault charges
In the following portion of the wikipedia article there are some factual problems. The events described in the article seem to be a mixture of several real events.

"Albert became the focus of a media frenzy in 1997, when he went on trial for felony charges of forcible sodomy. A 42-year-old woman who had had a 10-year sexual relationship with him accused Albert of calling her to his room to fix his fax machine only to see him wearing a belt and women's underwear. He then threw her on a bed at the Ritz-Carlton in Pentagon City, Virginia, biting her on the back 15 times, sodomizing her, and forcing her to perform oral sex on him. She also claimed that he would force her to "serve up a facial" for periods of up to 45 minutes. Albert charged that the woman was seeking revenge as he was ending their relationship and "she couldn't imagine life without him".[citation needed] After tests proved that the bite marks were his, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery charges, while the sodomy charge was dropped. Albert was given a 12-month suspended sentence."

There were actually two victims to the crime, not one.[1 ] In light of this it appears the wikipedia article takes true aspects from both crimes and combines them into one which leaves a whole portion of the story untold. For that matter there is much more to the story that is left out. There is more to the full extent of what actually happened pertaining to the crimes that he was ultimately charged with that would need to be elaborated on.

Please see the link I included, I am not suggesting this as a source for the article but it is a source out of many that discuss the crimes and the scandal into more detail. The article I linked to has something of a timeline of the events as they occurred and describes the situations in more detail, with transcripts from the court sessions and interviews. I hope someone who can do a more detailed write-up on this gathers some time to fix the factual problems and inconsistencies. Thanks.

99.33.229.207 (talk) 12:44, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I did my best to fix the problems, 99.33. You were right, there were testimonies from two key witnesses, but still only one "victim" who had pressed charges.  I think the Deadspin content is painstakingly detailed, but not really appropriate for an encyclopedia biography.  There was plenty of coverage in the mainstream press, though, to make for an effective summary of the case. - Ciramiddle (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

clarification needed
The article states:

"However with the Nets struggling this season, the Nets management relegated Albert to secondary play-by-play, to avoid a similar incident while Albert was with the Knicks."

What incident? 65.0.121.109 (talk) 00:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * It wasn't really one incident. It was that MSG owner James Dolan wants his announcers to play the fans for fools and never point out the obvious when either the Knicks and Rangers are playing bad. If the Knicks lost by 34 points, Dolan wanted the announcers to talk about a Knicks getting 12 rebounds. Marv Albert refused to pander. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.245.177 (talk) 06:35, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

what does serve up a facial mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.56.238 (talk) 02:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In basketball terms a facial is an emphatic blocked shot.

Double standard for different celebrities...
For some reason, it was decided that Erin Brokovitch's bio would not contain any mention of her DUI arrest, even though she is famous for making others pay for breaking the law, and putting people in danger. Even though her arrest shows her to be a hypocrite as she felt that it was OK to do something that kills so many people very year and injures so many more, it was ruled that it is not something that belongs on her bio. So how come Marv Albert's arrest belongs when it has absolutely no connection to why he is famous? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.245.177 (talk) 06:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You're confused. An arrest for misdemeanor DUI is a trivial matter compared with prosecution for felony rape.  Moreover, Albert was a huge public figure whose sexual assault case was widely reported.  Thus it is noteworthy and appropriate to be contained in a biographical article about him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.242.248.88 (talk) 04:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)