Talk:Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy

Lead section
Last part of the lead:

"The game received generally positive reviews from critics, with praise for its narrative, presentation, and characters, but criticism directed to its combat and bugs. It was a commercial disappointment."

Bugs and other technical issues aren't mentioned anywhere else in the article, and its sales are explained in "Reception" as "strong but failed to meet SE's expectations". Lead part could use better wording. Merko (talk) 10:57, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 May 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Snowmanonahoe (talk &middot; contribs &middot; typos) 18:32, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy → Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy (video game) – "Marvel's" isn't a particularly good disambiguation on its considering that every piece of Guardians media is a Marvel property. Sock  ( tock talk)  16:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support In ictu oculi (talk) 12:26, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Any policy based reason for your support? Merko (talk) 23:46, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Shorten to "Guardians of the Galaxy (video game)". IgelRM (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you support your comment with reliable sources that refer to the game as such, or insinuate that your suggestion is the WP:COMMONNAME? Merko (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I just meant it's a better disambiguation title than the one proposed by here, see Spider-Man (2018 video game). Sources: IGN, Engadget. IgelRM (talk) 11:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose Per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Add a hatnote pointing people to Guardians of the Galaxy if you believe there will be confusion. (I'm actually surprised there isn't a franchise article as the primary topic...) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose as the game is referred to as Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy in reliable sources and it's the most notable media named Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy anyway. Merko (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Merko I'm a little confused by this response given that I'm not suggesting a removal of "Marvel's", but the addition of a disambiguator. But also, the first film could easily be referred to as Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy, and it's clearly more notable than the game. Sock   ( tock talk)  18:05, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That movie is titled Guardians of the Galaxy, see official website: Merko (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support considering the same reason we don't have Marvel's Spider-Man and Disney's Aladdin.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 14:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Those don't really equate to the same thing; there are multiple things named "Marvel's Spider-Man" and "Disney's Aladdin", so they're incomplete disambiguations. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I feel keeping "Marvel's" Guardians of the Galaxy is not a helpful natural disambiguation. Technically, every release is "Marvel's". And the common name is without "Marvel's". I find it more confusing than helpful.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 21:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Technically, every release is "Marvel's". And the common name is without "Marvel's". Wrong. This video game is explicitly titled Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy. There is no other notable media titled Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy. Merko (talk) 18:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * let's still apply common sense. Guardians of the Galaxy is a Marvel property. So adding "Marvel's" doesn't distinguish it any more than "Marvel's Spider-Man". Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 11:41, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This is about what people are most likely to refer to when typing it. Why on Earth would people type "Marvel's..." when they simply want the franchise and not the game?  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking like a first-time reader. not like a seasoned fan. it just doesn't make it easier to disambiguate. the natural disambiguation doesn't provide as much clarity as you think.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 18:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS and WP:NATURAL. A good example I like to use is 1984 vs. Nineteen Eighty-Four, despite the COMMONNAME for the book being 1984. InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:35, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per SMALLDETAILS. It is unnatural for someone to refer to GotG as "Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy", however this video game is explicitly called such. I lean oppose on "Guardians of the Galaxy (video game)" per WP:NATURAL, but that can be discussed in a separate RM. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 00:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per NATURAL. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

GOCE copy edit July 2023
I'm in the home stretch of my major copy edit of this article, as requested by @OceanHok. The only part I haven't touched yet is the "Design" subsection of the "Development" section, and I plan to give the whole article a final once-over when that is done. If anyone has any suggestions, concerns, or feedback please let me know! —  TheOnlyZac  (talk) 03:05, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * - Thank you for your work! OceanHok (talk) 11:51, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I think I cleared out the last few typos. Just a few notes:
 * In the course of my edit I ended up removing these sources because, if I recall correctly, they were only used once and on statements that weren't really necessary:


 * The article was peppered with statements that didn't quite represent what the source said, so I had trouble verifying some statements. For instance, there was a sentence that said According to DeMarle, the comedy from the game came from these group of "unpredictable" and "zany" characters staying true to themselves. DeMarle did describe the Guardians as "zany" and "unpredictable", but in response to a question about the overall game design, and the question about comedy came later. Anywhere I saw these I rephrased the sentence to better match what the source said, but I didn't fact check every single statement.
 * The article uses the word "team" to refer to both the Guardians as a team and the development team at Eidos. It was particularly an issue in the Development section. I think I cleared up any ambiguity for now, but that's something to be mindful of.
 * The article was not consistent about whether it capitalized "Guardians" on its own when referring to the team as a unit, so I capitalized it throughout.
 * I tagged a few statements that say something was "described as" something, but it doesn't say by whom.
 * There's a couple of vague statements in the Plot section that need clarification.

That's all I've got for now, let me know if anyone has any questions or concerns! —  TheOnlyZac  (talk) 01:05, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Reverted a couple of changes
Hey @OceanHok, just wanted to explain why I reverted a few of your changes. Let me know if you disagree.

—  TheOnlyZac  (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I changed "the Avengers game" back to "Marvel's Avengers" in the lead to avoid ambiguity.
 * In the Gameplay section, I moved up the While the game is mostly linear... paragraph even further than you did in order to keep the two paragraphs about the meters which fill during combat together.
 * In the Plot, you wrote ...though they successfully enough money from Lady Hellbender. Aside from the typo, it's the second time you've removed the how tag without actually explaining how they get the money. As someone who never played the game it's not clear to me whether she gives them the money they steal it some other way.
 * I know @ElijahPepe said the music paragraph in the Reception section was too short, but tacking it onto the end of the paragraph about the voice acting just creates a new problem, so I made it a separate paragraph again.
 * I am not really sure how to further clarify the . Lady Hellbender paid them for Groot/Rocket, then the Guardians have to flee when Lady Hellbender discovers that Groot/Rocket has been freed. I have tried to make the music section a little bit longer. OceanHok (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2023 (UTC)