Talk:Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2/Archive 3

Australian Release Date
On IGN and the GAME official website, it states the relaese date is 16 Septemeber, meanwhile here and on the ebgames website it says the release is 23 september. Which one to trust?Marvel14 (talk) 10:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Changing pic on the article
There are clearer ones online, like the PS3 game box. Ominae (talk) 03:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah I wouldn't do that, it would make it look like your favoring the PS3.--Lbrun12415 03:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay then. Cause I saw some better ones online though. I thought I'd do the same and crop the PS3 boxart to remove all PS3-related stuff on it in case no one objects. Ominae (talk) 04:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Ms Marvel
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-marvel-ultimate/53235 Look at the text 1:45, she's definately in the game. Probably playable too, but we don't know yet. MylesRW (talk) 23:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If Ms Marvel is playable, that leaves one more character to be announced 24.7.20.12 (talk) 23:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * correction it will leave two left since Juggernaut doesn’t count as the 24 since he’s an exclusive. And why isn't she on the playable character list? It say Mrs. Marvel and Invisible women something fusion in the video. I say that's a confirmation that she is playable...--Lbrun12415 03:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Juggernaut is listed at http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/#/Characters/ and there are spaces for 24 characters on that page. --PseudoChron (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes that is true there are 24 character but Juggernaut is a gamestop exclusive they had to add him to the box. And At E3 it was sadi he's not part of the 24 so there are still 2 more left to be announced. they prob will add another box with the character or they will take Jug's out. http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=200666
 * I'll add her to the playable characters list I guess - her performing a fusion is confirmation for me. Not only that but this proves her in the game and if she was an NPC she would've been shown already. Obviously it's unfair to use an assumption as a source, but the Gametrailer's video notes that she can perform fusions which, for me, renders her playable. MylesRW (talk) 13:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Planewalker Dave (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to further back this up... NPCs can't perform fusions. Check out the Gametrailers Latveria video with Nick Fury, no Fusion comes up when the left trigger is held as with the rest of the characters. MylesRW (talk) 16:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So has there been a vignette video for Ms Marvel? I think that should be the only time a character can be confirmed as playable. Either that or that Vala guy announcing it on a sourced video. Strydom21.04 08:37, 05 August 2009 (UTC)

when in the world was vision anounced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.132.93 (talk) 19:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

seriously who put the Vision on the list?
 * I removed Vision there's absolutely no evidence stating his playability or even inclusion in the game MylesRW (talk) 20:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Upcoming Characters
"Two more characters in Ultimate Alliance 2 are set to be revealed in the coming month with a third and final character 'never to be announced.'" from http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1007593p1.html Hobocrow (talk) 21:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Does anyone know or has anyone heard of any characters that are still to be released? All the characters that were "speculated" all turned out to be confirmed as playable eventually ie. Gambit, Jean Grey, Penance, Ms. Marvel. It was almost confirmed before it happened, but rumors have since died down. Anyone know who the 24th character is? And if Juggernaut is not initially playable, the character that will replace him on the 24 player roster? Most notable "rumors" have been Cyclops, Nova and Psylocke I think. Anyone got something to add regarding this? Strydom21.04 08:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thor
I don't usually comment on these things mainly because everyone starts arguing over the most trivial things which I'm not a fan of, but I just figured I'd voice my opinion on this whole supposed Thor - Pre-Order topic. I checked the site and it merely states that you will recieve a code to "unlock" Thor, which to me says that he will infact already be a playable character in the game to begin with and not, as some have speculated, a Pre-Order Exclusive but simply just a character that will require unlocking as you progress through the game similar to Dr. Strange and others in MU:A 1. X-Men Origins: Wolverine, if pre-ordered from play.com offered an unlock code for his 'classic' costume which could be unlocked anyway where-as if you pre-ordered it from Game then you got an exclusive download for the Weapon X - Training Rooms, much like Juggernaught via. Gamestop & Amazon.

--LloydyJr (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * They just updated the V.I.P they said Thor, Jean and many other you will have to unlock.--Lbrun12415 00:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ms Marvel removed?
why did Ms Marvel get removed from the characters list? i thought there was proof she was in from that leaked text in the demo. Hobocrow (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If we want to list her as an 'unknown' that's fine, but we don't have confirmation that she's playable yet. --Teancum (talk) 03:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure on this one. Yes, we haven't been told she's playable.  However, we do know you can do fusions with her, which pretty much implies that she is.  Planewalker Dave (talk) 10:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally I'd like to wait for a more solid reference. What we know and what Wikipedia needs are two different things. --Teancum (talk) 15:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * can't we put her in "other characters" then instead of taking her off the entire list? Hobocrow (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

IF you're taking out Ms Marvel because it isn't officially confirmed yet then you should remove almost all the characters in the non playable section. 173.56.59.18 (talk) 00:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with her being on there -- she just hasn't been confirmed as playable, so she can't go in that section. --Teancum (talk) 00:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ok i'm putting her in other characters then? Hobocrow (talk) 05:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * She has just been confirmed as playable, here is the link to the video: http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14233937/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/videos/mua2_trl_msmarvel_vignette_81309.html - So I added her myself, as well as taking her off the other section. Atin25 (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Red Hulk
Can we put him on the list now that he is announced as an alternate costume? Or is there a special way he should be added? 98.180.32.127 3:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Only VIP members can see that link, so we have no public reliable source to add it. Sorry. I'm sure it'll leak somewhere else reliable soon, but we have to wait. --Teancum (talk) 20:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed

http://www.comicvine.com/jean-grey/29-3552/whatthefunk/92-402716/?page=5

75.11.43.196 (talk) 06:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * we can't use that..--Lbrun12415 15:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am a VIP at MUA2 official site and I have seen Red Hulk and im sure that all could post the reference 2 get 2 the news part of the site so the VIPS who go to wikipedia can get there and start psoting pictures of him. I could go there right now and upload it on the MUA2 Page for the doubtin' folksMastercarr (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It needs to be posted from a reliable source; in other words, a gaming news site or the like. Since the VIP section is private and nothing has been posted on a major public site we don't have the sources to back it up on Wikipedia, even though it's true. --Teancum (talk) 01:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I have the picture on my PC and I can upload it at will-Mastercarr (talk) 14:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The picture itself isn't reliable, as it could easily be faked. It has to come from somewhere that people trust; sites like Gamespot, Kotaku, GameSpy, IGN, etc.  It doesn't really add to the article anyways, as listing all of the alternate costumes would fall under WP:GAMECRUFT. --Teancum (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know where you would put the alternate costume information. Maybe it is best left off, BUT I do think that the OFFICIAL WEBSITE is a reliable source (even if it is for VIP's only) and that whoever says it isn't, no matter what they say, they are finding reasons not to add it. I'm trying hard not to be "aggressive" toward anyone, but I think you are just sour you do not have VIP access. Apologies if you do, but that is the only reason I could think that you would be so against putting up this information because of an "unreliable source". I have read the WP:GAMECRUFT and I don't think that's sufficient information not to put it up. But I do think that alternate costumes don't have a place to be listed individually on this page. Strydom21.04 08:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course the official website is a reliable source. The problem is, not everyone can see it.  I know I'd be unconvinced if someone said "Ninja Santa Claus is in MUA2!" then followed it with a ref that basically says "it's here, really, but *you* can't see it".  Just doesn't work well as a reference unfortunately, despite the fact we all know Rulk is there as an alternate costume.  Planewalker Dave (talk) 09:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as WP:GAMECRUFT goes, my point wasn't that it wasn't worth mentioning, but rather that we can mention in the prose of the article that each character has alternate costumes, and that some are based on different characters. That statement alone covers all alternate costumes, keeps the article concise, and doesn't spoil the game.  GameFaqs is much better suited for intricate details such as that.  In the case of Rulk, he's only a custume for Hulk, and isn't actually Red Hulk, so it doesn't really need specific mention. --Teancum (talk) 13:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

For a resource, would http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/11256/ work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.195.110.73 (talk) 01:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, forums are not considered reliable. It's just an alternate "outfit" anyways, which is doesn't belong in the article. --Teancum (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Cloak & Dagger
Shouldn't the two be separated as they are two separate and unique entities? Just 'cause they always tag along after each other doesn't make them one and the same. The Fantastic Four are always together but they get listed individually despite falling into the same pit fall previously mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiChristME (talk • contribs) 19:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, they only have one wikipedia article between the two of them, so it seems to make sense to keep them together. Planewalker Dave (talk) 19:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

the cloak and dagger most be separated —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.129.12.48 (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As Planewalker Dave already said, there aren't two separate articles for them here at Wikipedia, there is one article for both. We will follow the Wikipedia standard.  If other sites want to separate them, fine.  But this isn't a gaming site, it's an encyclopedia.  --Teancum (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Black Panther
On the MUA 2 achievements page a logo with a cat for the achievement save a nation was shown. Wakanda is the only Nation in the Marvel Universe that has a cat on its logo. Meaning that Black Panther will have a role in the game either as an NPC or a playable character.-Mastercarr (talk) 19:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily - remember Storm is married to Black Panther, so she could be the one saving the nation. --Teancum (talk) 21:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

When U think of Wakanda U think of Black Panther so most likely it is Black Panther, and even if it is Storm Im sure that Black Panther will definitely be in the story00:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastercarr (talk • contribs)
 * Sure. We just need something more iron clad to add it. --Teancum (talk) 01:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but unless they give a pic of him in a trailer he shouldn't be added. Yes when you think of Wakanda you think Panther but unless you see him then you don't know. (Theliterate (talk) 13:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

I could have gone without the unless you see him you dont know part-Mastercarr (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I was trying to be clearer in case my first sentence was understood. (Theliterate (talk) 14:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

The Number of Casualties in the Plot Section
This is probably totally pointless, but it has been bugging me so here goes: The number of civilian casualties in the Plot section states the number is 600, but it is over 600, 612 to be exact (according the the comics). Should someone modify it to say "over 600" or something. 72.189.192.145 (talk) 01:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. --Teancum (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Unlockables
I was wondering why aren't the unlockables listed? It was already confirmed on the official website you have to find artifacts to unlock Jean and Hulk because they don't fit into the Civil War comic story. Is the reason why because it's too specific for the characters or what? (Theliterate (talk) 13:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC))
 * Unlockables may change, but more importantly there are other sections of the article that need more attention than the characters section, such as the intro and Gameplay sections. The character table will be updated over time, but there are so many characters we don't know the status of that there's no need to update it at this point. --Teancum (talk) 13:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe the unlockables I have listed will change, but the probability of it is still there. Ok. (Theliterate (talk) 14:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

Developers
Shouldn't the developer section be changed at the end? It says the developer Vicarious Visions but VV is only one of the developers. There are different ones for some of the systems. For example Nspace does the Wii and PS2 version. (Theliterate (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC))
 * It should, yes. But there has been zero information reported about any versions but the PS3 and 360, so we have nothing to add for the other devs. --Teancum (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Cyclops
It is stated in the article Cyclops in other media that Cyclops is to appear in this game, but there is no mention of this in the article for the game. Should it be removed from the article about Cyclops' appearances in other media, since there is no source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.231.228 (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should. --Teancum (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Debateable - http://www.giantbomb.com/zach-hanks/72-86436/ I don't know how "reliable" this will be in the eyes of Wikipedia policies, so I haven't included him in any of the character sections. But I like to think where there is smoke, there's fire. That has been the case for almost all the characters that have been confirmed so far. Strydom21.04 08:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wouldn't say they're particularly reliable (though here's a better link for that website), since it doesn't state where they're getting their information from. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:19, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have read a numberous amount of times now that Cyclops, Psylocke and Blade are going to be initially playable exclusively to the Wii console to compensate for Wii owners not being able to download any DLC characters. Obviously this is still to be confirmed, and hopefully these 3 characters will still be available to download for other consoles. Strydom21.04 10:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Contessa Allegra De Fontaine
I recieved an email from Lani Minella herself. Her email is lani@audiogodz.com She told me she was voicing Lucia Von Bardas and Contessa Allegra De Fontaine. So this confirms she is in the game, most likely as a NPC. Can this be added to the article. I'm sick of being told it's not true. Email her yourself and she will tell you.--Billybob4412 (talk) 23:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, you need a reliable source. "An email you got" doesn't cut it. --Teancum (talk) 01:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Iceman
He was leaked on Twitter earlier by GMRJen as a playable. We can't add him yet though, right? But should I add him to the NPCs? MylesRW (talk) 05:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, what exactly got leaked? Did 'GMRJen' actually say he will be playable? Anything about him being DLC? Strydom21.04 08:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

We can't add Iceman at all because we don't have a reliable source. And to answer Strydom21.04's question, someone asked GMRJen what his favorite character moves were -- he said Iceman's freeze beam was one of them. But the post was removed from Twitter, so we have no reliable proof. --Teancum (talk) 13:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The post still shows up in search results, even though it was "deleted". http://twitter.com/search?q=GMRJEN%20iceman%20freeze --PseudoChron (talk) 17:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

If in the MUA2 Guide it says and shows Iceman, could we then put him on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zmikey08z (talk • contribs) 19:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * MUA2 Guide? Like a strategy guide?  Yeah, that would cover it.  What sort of guide are we talking about?

That's esaclty what I ment. The strategy guide out tomorrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zmikey08z (talk • contribs) 15:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Which guide is this? The official strategy guide is listed as coming out on the 8th on Amazon.24.190.34.219 (talk) 22:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently, Iceman has been leaked by the same source that leaked Gambit, Jean Grey and Penance. That, as well as his 'Ice Beam' being talked about by GMRJen, I am very positive about him being unveiled next. Apparently (for lack of a better word) on the 3rd September. Appologies for all the "apparently's". Strydom21.04 10:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And now it's finally official! Strydom21.04 11:00, 04 September 2009 (UTC)

Scorcher as a boss
Scorcher has ben confirmed as a boss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.201.92 (talk) 01:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Added --Teancum (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Spider-woman
Spider-woman and Lady Deathstrike have been announced as "characters you will encounter." There is nothing confirming them as being playable. http://comics.ign.com/articles/101/1018503p1.html Hobocrow (talk) 04:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Added --Teancum (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Hydra
I can't say who out of Hydra will be in, but it looks as if Hydra Agents will be in. http://uk.comics.ign.com/dor/articles/1018503/touring-the-marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-universe/images/touring-the-marvel-ultimate-alliance-2-universe-20090826023758619.html?page=mediaFull On the wall, there is a Hydra sign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.166.87 (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Punisher & Nova
Stop adding them to the list. Neither are confirmed. Punisher has next to no chance either since Iceman is practically confirmed and the last character has to be a flier due to the character select screen MylesRW (talk) 00:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * N1ckth3m4n is doing it, he even admits it on the MUA2 forums (He uses the same name) http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/12689/P0/. If he's continually doing it we should report him or whatever. Ahbarnum (talk) 03:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Why does the last character have to be a flier? Hobocrow (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Because, they showed the character select screen, and blotched out the characters that were yet to be revealed. The character that has yet to be announced was blotched out near the top of the group, proving that he/she is in flight. Strydom21.04 08:21, 02 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That doesn't mean anything. If I were a developer, I'd do that to throw folks off. --Teancum (talk) 12:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not once have VV admitted to doing anything to try and "throw off" any speculations. I'm pretty sure that's a fact, not just my opinion. Strydom21.04 07:50, 03 September 2009 (UTC)
 * True, but the point is that nobody knows. --Teancum (talk) 13:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Cyclops, Blade, and Psylocke
It seems these three have been leaked as Wii Exclusives. http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3878769884/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3877974261/in/photostream/

I am not gonna add it myself, as I am not sure if it is credible enough to use. =D do with it what you will. 72.189.192.145 (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Somebody stop me. I wanna get da ok b4 I start puttin da Wii esclusives in da character section wher dey belong. so any1 gonna say sometin98.117.43.50 (talk) 01:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * They'll be removed until we get a reliable source. Unfortunately even though the pictures are real and confirmed by mutiple people, we have to have a news source or something of the like to add them, as that's how Wikipedia works. --Teancum (talk) 02:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, I think the image at the back of the packaging for the very game itself, is more verification than what any producer could say, because they could be trying to "throw us off" according to some people. But that's just my opinion. Strydom21.04 13:00, 03 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And at the same time we didn't know if those pics where just a photoshopped cover slid into a DVD case until other similar pics started surfacing. I'm sure a news source will report them being in soon, and if not the game's being released soon, so the game itself will be the actual proof Wikipedia needs. --Teancum (talk) 13:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like they are confirmed on the VIP site, along with the Sentry and She-Hulk for the PSP, but since I'm not a member, I can't confirmed this. --KidKon —Preceding undated comment added 06:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC).


 * Yeah. I'm a VIP member. They confirmed Psylocke, Cyclops and Blade as exclusive characters for the Wii, PS2 and PSP versions. Sentry and She-Hulk were confirmed as exclusive for the Nintendo DS version. 201.83.237.31 (talk) 07:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is a video where they are confirmed. http://pax.gamespot.com/video/6216798/?hd=1&tag=top_storiesplay_btn7 (Blade, Psylocke, and Cyclops) as well some other interesting info for the Wii. Do with it what you will. =] 72.189.192.145 (talk) 21:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Alternate Costumes
Just wondering, where did we get the information that each character will only have one alternate, unlockable outfit? Seems a bit strange that they'd limit it like that when the games boasts to outdo the last when the original had four costumes for each hero. Anyone got sources for this info for me to have a browse at? Would appreciate it. Thanks.--LloydyJr (talk) 13:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * From Dan Vondorak's Twitter page. He's the creative director for Vicarious Visions.  Check Reference #11 for information. He mentioned that there's only one "right now", but given that he posted that with less than a month until the game shipped it's pretty safe information.  --Teancum (talk) 15:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The article says the X-Box 360 and PS3 characters have alternate costumes, but what about the Wii and PS2 characters? 75.157.107.206 (talk) 22:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Now that the 24 PCs have been revealed...
Maybe it's time to reformat the chart? There of course should be the PC section, but the arbitrary distinction between "Other Characters" and "Enemies"? First, at least four of the "Other Characters" (Backlash, Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike, Moonstone) are villains. Second, do we have any confirmation that all the "Enemy" characters will appear as bosses? For all we know they could just be NPC villains in the game that you talk to. I propose, for now, to either merge the "Other Characters" and "Enemies" sections; or separate the two sections as "NPC Heroes" and "NPC Villians"; until, at least, we have actual confirmation that they are bosses and not just NPCS. Also the notes for the "Other Characters" section needs to be amended.~ 24.190.34.219 (talk)
 * Well, there's a couple of issues. 1-Juggernaut doesn't count towards the 24.  He's an extra DLC character if you pre-order.  2-We need to add Blade/Psylocke/Cyclops as PS2, PSP and Wii exclusive, but I can't find a reliable source yet.  3-No sources that have been found have confirmed Backlash, Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike, Moonstone as enemies in the game, only that they'll be in it.  If you can find sources for them being a common enemy to both pro-reg and anti-reg, we can put them there. --Teancum (talk) 20:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Would this be considered a good source for Psylocke, Cyclops and Blade? http://pax.gamespot.com/video/6216798/?hd=1&tag=top_storiesplay_btn7 KingKon97 (talk) 23:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be as it's an actual game designer specifically stating that they are in and exclusive for the Wii.24.190.34.219 (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Shocker..again
It's now official that they change the site's concept art after several months. so now it should be clear that we should put him in the other characters section until he is a confirmed villain, end of story-Mastercarr (talk) 21:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter. The point is the old version of the website doesn't exist anymore, so we have nothing to reference against to prove that he's in the game.  A handful of us saw the old website, but word of mouth isn't enough proof. --Teancum (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, if you go into the desktop section of the site, they posted the old murals up as wallpaper. So, since we have no idea if he's a NPC or Boss, I'll put him in others. I would post a link to the desktop, but it still remains as the site's regular URL. So, we can put this to rest. Atin25 (talk) 22:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Mastercarr wass right all along :)98.117.43.50 (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * no one said he was wrong. But since the old mural was taken down, there wasn't any physical proof of Shocker anymore. As I have seen Teancum explain numerous times. The desktops were put up relatively recently, so NOW we have the physical proof again (least I believe so). 72.189.192.145 (talk) 00:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, and even though there's no in-game proof of him (there has been of all other characters) I'm willing to budge since we have something to go by for the powers that be. --Teancum (talk) 01:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Added a note to it so people won't delete him when editing the characters section... like i did earlier Hobocrow (talk) 03:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Juggernaut PS3/XBox 360 only?
I'm just curious because it doesn't say that on the official wesite. Nor does it mention Cyclops, Psylock, She-Hulk, etc. on the official site. 75.157.107.206 (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you go to Gamestop's website and click on every system that has MUA2, you'll see that the Juggernaut bonuses are only under PS3 and Xbox 360. Cyclops, Blade, and Psylocke have been confirmed for wii, ps2, and psp through pictures from the MUA2's news section. She-Hulk and Sentry have been confirmed for Nintendo DS through Kalina who worked on the first MUA. Hobocrow (talk) 05:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that just sucks! Why doesn't it name Juggernaut as a PS3/X-Box 360 exclusive on the official website, I wonder? 75.157.107.206 (talk) 01:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * By official site, I assume you mean the Vicarious Visions MUA2 site. Vicarious Visions are only designing the X-Box 360 and PS3 versions of the game, so there's no reason to list Juggernaut as a system exclusive on it as the site only pertains to those two versions of the game. By that same token, since n-Space is making the Wii version, any announcements concerning it wouldn't be on the Vicarious Visions made site.24.190.34.219 (talk) 05:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

So Juggernaut is not gonna be for PS2 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainheroe (talk • contribs) 16:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably not. The full character list for PS2/PSP/Wii/DS hasn't been revealed. --Teancum (talk) 16:44, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there even an N-Space website for the game? 142.26.194.190 (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Yellow Jacket
Yellow Jacket has been confirmed in the latest video by IGN. He's been confirmed as a boss but he could just be one for Anti-Reg only. I haven't add him because I'm not sure where exactly where he should go. He's link: http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14233938/marvel-ultimate-alliance-2/videos/mua2_trl_ultimatebosses_90909.html Atin25 (talk) 01:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's kinda hard to figure out. Would Multiple man and Songbird be listed as bosses also? Hobocrow (talk) 01:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hard to say -- I think we're so close to the game's release we can just list him as a boss and fix it later. --Teancum (talk) 01:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

imo, don't add him to enemies. when all chars are revealed, you can do Playable chars section, then Other chars, then put a * next to their name if their locked for pro, a + next to their name if locked for anti, a *+ if you fight them on pro and then +* if you fight them on anti :)

oh, and btw, the games been released. nick furys playable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.240.212 (talk) 18:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they've been leaked, which isn't the same. You can't actually buy the games yet.  We don't know if they're the production runs or betas (probably production this close to release) so we don't know what's been changed if anything. --Teancum (talk) 18:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

secret character
i just saw on gamefaqs someone was talking about how they had got the game and they said that the secret character is a cyborg nick fury and they had a link i didn't have enough time to check it but i was just wondering if u guys wanted to know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.80.93 (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like rubbish to me. Planewalker Dave (talk) 13:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I've seen the pictures. It looks legit, but gotta wait until we get a reliable source. Hobocrow (talk) 14:19, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Damnit, just had a look at the photos and, yeah you're right, looks pretty legit but it's not a solid source. There had better be one helluva good explanation for this one... Planewalker Dave (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know who put Nick Fury in the Playable section, but he's most likely gonna get deleted since we don't have a reliable reference for him yet. Hobocrow (talk) 05:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

A-Bomb
He's been announced as an NPC on the IGN site.

Also Juggernaut isn't pre-order exclusive as he's available to buy on the american PSN Store already. 77.101.118.174 (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * We've had A-Bomb in the characters section for hours and hours already. Same with Juggernaut being available to buy. Thanks anyway. Hobocrow (talk) 14:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Xbox 360 content
"A Xbox Live release is expected to follow."

Is there a link for this? Or is it just speculation? If it is, it needs to be removed. And if the statement is not just guess work, and a link can be provided, 'a Xbox Live' should be corrected, and changed to 'an Xbox Live'.

Will someone who can please fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.1.163 (talk) 01:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

DLC
"The game will include format-specific characters, and the developers plan to release additional characters as downloadable content.[10]"

The sentence claims that extra characters are to be released as downloadable content. However, when clicking on the link, the article states that:

"The publisher also declined to comment on any plans for DLC (Downloadable content)."

This means that they have neither denied nor confirmed as to whether or not more characters will be available via download.

The "... and the developers plan to release additional characters as downloadable content." part of the sentence should be changed. The website has not confirmed it or even hinted at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.1.163 (talk) 01:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the PS3 overview part 1, you will see that once you get past the VV logo, it says Checking for Downloadable Content, which is why it will not be deleted, and if you want more proof, check the back of the box on any game website and you will see that it says Content Download.-71.166.55.189 (talk) 13:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I found a reference for DLC and added it. --PseudoChron (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What I'm curious about is if the Wii version will have DLC, 'cause it's DLC compatable. 142.26.194.190 (talk) 14:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Errors
Can someone who is able to make edits to this page actually read it through, check the links, check for grammar and spelling, check for accurate information and make appropriate corrections?

I would do it myself, but the page is locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.1.163 (talk) 01:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * make an account then Hobocrow (talk) 05:09, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for the characters table
So I was trying to figure out how to organize all of the characters given the section of the story where you play as anti-reg and pro-reg, and came up with what's below. I don't think we should put it in until a day or two after the game comes out, that way we can have multiple people who've played through a good portion of it who can add to it.

I'm not really happy with the word "Bosses", but I can't think of a better one. --Teancum (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * sounds/looks good. i saw some live footage of the game and the guy fought Cable as a boss, but i won't do anything for now seeing as how i don't have a reference and i don't know whether it was pro or anti. Hobocrow (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

I like the table, but I was under the impression Yellowjacket was a Anti-Reg Boss. Seeing as he himself is Pro-Reg. Also, Lucia Von Bardas I also thought would be a common boss, as she is in Act 1, which is the Secret War, which happens prior to having to choose a side. And, Nick Fury is supposedly the final boss of the game overall, though I understand the lack of credible sources which also prevents him from being added to the "Playable Characters" list. I guess we'll find out more when the game is actually released this Tuesday, or a few days after. 72.189.192.145 (talk) 20:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This is just the layout. I didn't actually move anyone around. Luckily on the 15th the game itself becomes our credible source, so we won't have to worry about citing every new change.  --Teancum (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to correct you but, there are a few flaws in this. First Diamondback, Electro, Scorcher, Grim Reaper, Shocker, Jack O'Lantern, Backlash, & Lucia von Bardas, are common bosses as they're bosses in the Secret War portion. Multiple Man a pro-reg bosses. Cable is a pro-reg boss & Bishop is his anti-reg counterpart. Yellowjacket is an anti-reg with Black Goliath as his pro-reg counterpart. Molten Man has not been confirmed wether he's a boss or not. Patriot & Spder-woman have been confirmed as a pro-reg boss. And lastly She-hulk & Hercules have been confirmed as bosses for anti-reg & pro-reg respectivly--Kyronix (talk) 01:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need the "Other characters" section. Listing every NPC in the game seems unnecessary. Also, maybe the system-exclusive characters could be listed separately, instead of using the markers? --PseudoChron (talk) 03:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

@kyronix: all Teancum did was make the layout. he didn't move any characters yet Hobocrow (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

360 and PS3 characters
On the characters table there's a marker for characters exclusive to X-Box 360 and Playstation 3, but that marker doesn't correspond to any characters on the list. Is that a typo and it is supposed to? If not, what's it doing there at all? 130.56.71.132 (talk) 00:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It used to refer to Nick Fury. But he was then removed from the playable characters list because of a lack of a reliable source. --PseudoChron (talk) 03:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Once again...
Valentina De Fontaine IS in the game, and she will be voiced by Lani Minella, who also voices Lucia Von Bardas. If you care to disprove this then go-ahead. Come tomorrow, I will prove you wrong...just wait.--Billybob4412 (talk) 20:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The point isn't whether you were right. The point is that we need reliable sources to back up what folks say here at Wikipedia.  The game itself will be a reliable source, so if you're right, great.  We'll add it then. --Teancum (talk) 20:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I'm sorry for arguing. It's just that she did email me, and I wanted so much to add it to wikipedia. Ah well, once again I apologize. Speaking of which, why is Namorita in the article? --Billybob4412 (talk) 20:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I know! Namorita keeps getting added, along with a note to a youtube video(which i don't know if that counts as a reliable source). Plus the girl in the video looks nothing like her, and i'm only basing that off of MUA1's Namorita....... ok i just read her wiki page, so i guess thats her, but unless you really know her powers you wouldn't have known it was her. Hobocrow (talk) 23:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Some guy is posting videos of his play through of MUA2, http://www.youtube.com/user/zeroXshinobi I do not remember which one it was, but there is a video that shows a CGI of Namorita and Nitro fighting in front of the school. (I believe its part 10 or something). Also, Namorita had at one point developed blue skin similar to most Atlanteans, due to the extended exposure to oxygen and some kind of DNA she was injected with when she cloned. And this happened right before the Civil War, so during the Civil War, she was blue (more Atlantean like). Just fyi. Although I am not entirely clear on it, but that is my understanding. 97.103.141.230 (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok guys seems like we've got a relible sorce for this now another guys posted his playthrough of MUA2 and found an audio log with Valentina De Fontaine speaking in it, howerever there is NO relible source Lani Minella voices her http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItI4Fsxbxw&feature=channel --Kyronix (talk) 11:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's such a minor part that it fails WP:N and so can't be included in the article anyways. --Teancum (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I know just setling the arguement--Kyronix (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

characters section
Hey guys Iron Fist should be under system exclusives as he's only playable on the 360 & Ps3. And don't ya'll think we should say who's playable on the NDS like we did for MUA1 on the GBA?--24.3.145.219 (talk) 14:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll move Iron Fist when I get a chance, but I don't think there's an official list for who's on the DS yet. --Teancum (talk) 15:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The character you have from the start are Captain America, Hulk, She-Hulk, Sentry, Iron man, Spider-man, Wolverine, Invisible Woman, Ms Marvel and the unlockables are Thor, Thing, Luke Cage, Storm, Venom, & Green Goblin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.145.219 (talk) 19:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Character list
Someone must have messed up pro- and anti-registration NPCs.

Anti-Registration: Bishop Black Widow She-Hulk Wonder Man Yellowjacket Pro-Registration: Cable Multiple Man


 * That's a list of the bosses. Notice the Enemies title above that section. --Teancum (talk) 12:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Black Goliath is also a boss for Pro-Reg (he is the Yellowjacket counterpart) as well as Hercules, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Dagger, Colossus, and War Machine and Patriot (when you chose a side, if you chose Pro, you fight him). Though I don't know what you are counting as boss battles.

"Patriot" was completely removed from the table for some reason (not listed in boss or non-boss section). You fight him if you're pro-reg, in sort of a mini-boss battle.24.190.34.219 (talk) 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * He was was removed due to lack of notability. He has such a minor role.  We can't list all the characters here as Wikipedia isn't a game guide.  I'll be pruning other characters out later as I learn how big their roles are. --Teancum (talk) 04:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

will people stop changing the order of the list, please!? it's realy confusing me.
 * Just throwing it out there, I think you had might as well add Patriot and the other mini bosses to the list. I mean, Jack O'Lantern is there, and I don't think you ever get to fight him, he just shows up in a cut scene. Also, withj A-Bomb there, might as well throw in Justice as you fight them at the same time. You fight Colossus twice (once on Pro Reg, once as a common enemy) I would say he is rather significant. (Dagger as well, she shows up to fight against you alongside Colossus) Just saying.
 * Personally I think the character list needs to be checked and checked again every so often. I know with the original game, people would add just about every character. It's not Wikipedia's job to be a comprehensive guide to list every character in the game. This is called game guide content, which belongs elsewhere. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

At the time all of the YouTube playthroughs were anti-reg only, so other than someone who had played pro-reg updating we had little way of knowing. I had only seen Patriot in a conversation and so thought he wasn't a boss fight for pro-reg. My fault. --Teancum (talk) 12:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It's called lazy journalism. If you want to have a section called "characters" you must list every last character in that list or it is incorrect. Whether they are major or minor it doesn't matter. Being lazy is something you can never ever accept. Every last character should be on the list, and not listing them is an embarrassment to the site and to the intelligence of it's users.
 * Something I just thought of: the problem with naming pro vs. anti bosses is that during act 2, the bosses you fight are different, but almost all the bosses return during act 3 controlled by nanites, and you fight them regardless of what side you're on. So do we list all the bosses that you fight in act 3 as common, or do we subdivide them into pro vs. anti anyway?


 * Also, I've run through the Anti-reg campaign, and I'm going through Pro right now. Depending on how things end up, we may end up having to move Cloak, Dagger, Justice, and some of the side-exclusive bosses to the common category as well, in which case (if possible) we might just want to shrink the "Other Characters" section down to one column. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Dagger is a Pro-Reg boss. You never fight Cloak.97.103.141.230 (talk) 03:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just started through the Pro-reg campaign on the DS where you do, in fact, fight Cloak and Dagger as a pair. So he is a boss in the DS version. StryyderG (talk) 18:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Well it should also be noted that the boss list is only for the 360/PS3 at the moment becuase the Wii/PS2 have some different bosses like Magneto and Winter Soldier. However, I think the point that Teancum made before is valid. This article is not a game guide. There really isn't a need to include every comic character that appears in a comic game. In fact, I wouldn't be against scrapping the table entirely except for the playable character section.24.190.34.219 (talk) 05:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Normally I'd be against a characters table, but as there are so many notable ones and game sales are driven by the characters I think it's appropriate here. It might be best just to merge everyone who's not playable and yet worth including into the Other Characters section, and making it a catch-all.  That way everyone is covered whether you play pro or anti-reg.  PS3/360 and PS2/Wii exclusives (like Magneto and Quicksilver) can easily be covered by the footnotes.  Once we know we have all of the characters in we should probably reorganize the table, but for now trying to do it without everyone in would be a complete mess, and we don't want to be accused of "lazy journalism". --Teancum (talk) 11:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Didn't every character get listed for the first game? Why not for this one? Hobocrow (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No. There is no mention of Weasel, Jarvis, Bruce Banner (as a human), Vision (as a NPC), Wyatt Wingfoot, etc.  Only boss fights and playables.  I haven't played MUA2 yet, and that's why I haven't removed/added much.  I'd say Nitro is definitely notable as he caused the Stamford incident - even though he's not playable or a boss.  But other characters I don't know much about as far as how big of a part they play.  Bottom line I'd say bosses, playables, and other major characters should be included.  It's pretty standard for gaming articles. Again, I haven't played it yet, so I can't do much on that front.  --Teancum (talk) 14:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It isn't lazy journalism, it's called a decent list. Look at any article here that has a lot of characters, every single one isn't listed. Non-playables and very minor enemies aren't listed, period. If you want that information, go to a video game site. Teancum is correct: bosses, playables and major characters should be included. Besides those, the others are just clutter at best. RobJ1981 (talk) 15:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * But isn't the idea of a complete list worth more. Otherwise, why include any at all other than the playable characters. I realize it isn't a gaming site, but even as an encyclopedia, a complete list rather than one only half done would be better to have. It isn't like anyone is expecting cheat codes and walkthroughs for each level, just a complete list of NPCs that appear in the game, instead of deciding who is more relevant than who and leaving out a good portion of them, it would be far simpler to just leave them all out, except the payables. 97.103.141.230 (talk) 20:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I get where you're going, but when you read an encyclopedia you don't want to know every little thing about a subject, just the high, important parts. That's why we need to be careful what we put in so we don't lean towards being a game guide. --Teancum (talk) 22:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

@Teancum: by "didn't all the characters get listed" i meant to say "didn't all the playbles and bosses get listed". sorry that was my bad. Hobocrow (talk) 23:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Plot(s)
I'm placing the Work-In-Progress plots here. Please comment above the plot section and help to trim it down and expand what's needed. Currently the plot is overly detailed for Wikipedia. Rather than make tons of edits on the article, let's just all work together to clean it up here. --Teancum (talk) 16:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Plot expanded. Now to await the Pro-Registration Plot. Rtkat3 (talk) 6:41, 16 September 2009

Current articles in the sandbox: MUA2 plot

Plot thumb|200px|left|Heroes Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, and Luke Cage battle enemy robots. One year ago, S.H.I.E.L.D. director Nick Fury leads Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, and Wolverine in a covert mission in Doomstadt, Latveria. Fighting their way through Latverian soldiers, the group encounters an Intel dropped by Black Widow which states to disrupt a power source that's bothering the world. They encounter the power source at a Latverian church and fight Electro. After defeating Electro and destroying the power source, Nick Fury tries to make contact with his Bravo Team (a black ops unit). In a flashback, Nick Fury reveals to the President that the Tinkerer has been supplying technology to supervillains when funded by Lucia von Bardas. Nick Fury then leads the heroes to the castle gates. When they reach the castle gates, they end up fighting Scorcher and Wizard. The Bravo Team destroys the Shield Projectors to get into Lucia's castle and disrupts the radio jammers to enable contact with Black Widow. While Bravo Team handles their next assignment, Nick Fury, Iron Man, and Captain America confront Lucia von Bardas and try to get her to surrender. Bravo Team heads to the Reactor Room to destroy the reactor where they encounter the Tinkerer who unleashes robotic soldiers on them. After the Reactor Shielding is removed, Tinkerer then attacks the Bravo Team in his Tank-Bot. With the Tank-Bot destroyed, Tinkerer escapes as the heroes evacuate the exploding castle.

In the present, Ms. Marvel has been investigating an international gun-running ring in New York and has originated on Roosevelt Island. However, she hasn't reported back. The heroes investigate the tunnels to Roosevelt Island where they find the Ms. Marvel in the clutches of Shocker. Shocker escapes as Ms. Marvel is freed by the heroes. The heroes then pursue Shocker through the tunnels while destroying the Latverian munitions. The heroes then face Grim Reaper who instructs Shocker and Diamondback to help the boss get everything ready. With Grim Reaper defeated, the heroes pursue Diamonback and Shocker to a ship where they run into Lucia von Bardas (who is now a cyborg). The players disable the ship's laser cannons, but Lucia activates her bomb that will kill millions of people. The heroes managed to defeat Lucia von Bardas. A news report states that following the Latverian retaliation, Nick Fury has gone into hiding upon being wanted for questioning and Maria Hill has taken his place as the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. During the clean-up in the aftermath, Captain America and Iron Man encounter Nick Fury who admits that the attack on Latveria was his idea since the President wouldn't take action on it. When Iron Man shoots Nick Fury, they discover it was just a Life Model Decoy of him.

When the Superhero Registration Act is being discussed by Congress, Iron Man plans to speak at Congress. To prevent any trouble from harming Congress, the heroes are sent to make sure no terrorist attacks occur. One hour later, Washington, D.C. came under attack by an unknown terrorist force and the heroes work with a S.H.I.E.L.D. force led by Lt. Farrall. After taking out some Rocket Troopers, Deadpool appears and mistakens the heroes as terrorists. After a fight where they tell Deadpool that they aren't with the terrorists, Maria Hill arrives and tells the heroes that Titanium Man is behind the terrorist attack and has taken some Senators into the subway systems. The players managed to catch up with Titanium Man who escapes and Deadpool gets the Senators back to the Capital. The heroes catch up with Titanium Man at the Lincolm Memorial. Upon his defeat, Titanium Man claims that the heroes have already lost. After his talk at Congress, Tony Stark tells Captain America that his is trying to save the old traditions the heroes did.

Three days later at Stark Tower, Tony is one his computer while a news footage of the New Warriors (Night Thrasher, Speedball, Namorita, and Microbe) are fighting a bunch of villains (Nitro, Cobalt Man, Speedfreek, and Coldheart) in Stamford, Connecticut. When Namorita subdues Nitro, the villain tells Namorita that she's playing with the big boys now as Nitro explodes. Tony sees this and heads out as Iron Man. Clean up occurs at the scene of the incident. Congress has rushed ahead with the Superhero Registration Act. In the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier above New York City, Captain America and Maria Hill argue about the Registration Act. Captain America escapes from the Helicarrier. Protests have occured outside the White House as the President hears about Captain America going against the Superhero Registration Act. Iron Man tells the President that he'll take care of Captain America. The news of this states that heroes are beginning to choose sides in response to this.

Patriot has the heroes overhear the conversation between Mister Fantastic and Luke Cage. Luke Cage is disatisfied with the act when the heroes arrive. The player has a choice to either talk with Luke Cage or talk with Mister Fantastic about the act.

Pro-Registration The heroes register, but Patriot busts in after seeing them join up with Maria Hill. The heroes end up fighting Patriot and defeat him. With Patriot arrested, Mister Fantastic tells the heroes that Luke Cage and Iron Fist left with Captain America.

Iron Man and Mister Fantastic tell the heroes that they will be finding the Anti-Registration hideouts while S.H.I.E.L.D. deals with the supervillain activities. Iron Man reveals that they have been tracking some suspicious activities in New Jersey indicating that Captain America and the superheroes on his side are preparing themselves for war. Bishop reveals that Cable is behind this operation and the hideout is filled with the White Star (a group of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents that are on Captain America's side). The heroes head there and Bishop reveals that the White Star is unloading some robots while Black Widow scouts the area. After trashing the cargo, they rondezvous with Black Widow who instructs Bishop and the heroes to distract the guards while she finds a way in. When Spider-Woman plans to close off the base, Bishop and the heroes managed to follow her in. They then fight Spider-Woman once a truck leaves the base. When Spider-Woman is defeated, Black Widow appears through the entrance point that she found and reveals that the base used to be a HYDRA terrorist base. Upon going through it, the players head to the Command Center to shut down an outgoing data stream. Biship keeps the door opened so that the heroes can stop Cable from uploading data. After besting Hercules, the heroes confront Cable who commands the White Guard soldiers to hold off the heroes while he transmits the data. The players then fight Cable and defeat him.

Two weeks later, Iron Man states that the unregistered superheroes and supervillains are being rounded up each day. Iron Man and Mister Fantastic reveal that Prison 42 (a prison in the Negative Zone to hold unregistered heroes and villains) is up and running. They state that access to Prison 42 is a trans-dimension portal located deep within Ryker's Island. Iron Man reveals that there are a dozen prisoners being held in Prison 42 and Mister Fantastic states that advanced nanotech recovered from the Latverian attack is being used on the supervillains. The heroes are sent to guard a convoy on route to Ryker's Island and that Captain America's group might intercept. The heroes end up taking out some White Star members plotting to intercept the convoy. Venom III (under the control of Officer Swanson) arrives to help the heroes. After taking out some White Star members, the heroes end up fighting Prodigy. With Prodigy defeated, the heroes fight more White Star soldiers. After clearing the high line, the heroes end up fighting the White Star soldiers on the streets. After defeating the robots sent to help the White Guard, the heroes then face Multiple Man when he gets free from the transport. When Multiple Man is taken down, Thing arrives displeased at what was going on. Just then, more White Star soldiers arrive. Multiple Man recovers and continues the attack. When Multiple Man is defeated, the other prisoners are loaded into a new transport. Thing helps out with the clean-up following the battle. However, Captain America has broken Cable and Hercules out. The heroes head after Captain America. When they catch up to Captain America, Cable, and Hercules, they are attacked by Goliath who gets Captain America, Cable, and Hercules to a safe point before attacking the heroes. Officer Swanson dispatches Molten Man to help defeat Goliath. With Goliath defeated, the transport to Ryker's Island continues.

Two weeks later, use of the supervillains on the Pro-Registration act has gotten the public's opinion on the positive side. To lure Captain America's group into a trap, Iron Man fakes a disaster in an unpopulated area at Geffen-Meyer Chemicals. Captain America's group uses Cloak's teleportation to get inside. Captain America and Cloak discover too later that it's a trap when it turns out that the chemical plant is owned by Stark Industries and that Cloak is neutrilized. Iron Man appears with his Pro-Registration Group and the Thunderbolts. When Iron Man offers an amnesty, Captain America accepts only to secretly plant something that disables the Iron Man armor. The heroes fight through various White Star soldiers to get to some of Captain America's allies. First they end up fighting Multiple Man and defeating him. Then they fight Patriot and Firestar. Green Goblin is sent to assist the heroes in fighting Colossus and Dagger. With the Anti-Registration superheroes captured, the heroes persue Captain America. Once they catch up with Captain America, they fight him. Captain America is then assisted by Iron Fist. Captain America manages to escape and knocks out Iron Man. The fight between the heroes and Captain America resumes with Captain America being assisted by Luke Cage. When Luke Cage is defeated, Iron Man recovers and helps out. Captain America manages to get away from the fight. Maria Hill then sends the heroes to check up on the nanite-controlled supervillains.

Anti-Registration Captain America tells the heroes that their base in New Jersey has been discovered by S.H.I.E.L.D. and the heroes head there to help Cable stop the S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents from blowing up the Anti-Registration Combat Drones. They rondezvous with Spider-Woman and head to the boat where S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents are destroying their equipment. After eliminating the bombs, the heroes head to an old HYDRA base that Cable is holed up in. When they reach Cable's hideout, Black Widow attacks them while War Machine and Bishop infiltrate the base. After defeating Black Widow, the heroes make their way to where Bishop is and fight him. With Bishop defeated, Iron Man doesn't take the news of this lightly.

Two weeks later, Captain America and Luke Cage tell the heroes that Iron Man and S.H.I.E.L.D. have almost finished the construction of Prison 42 (a prison in the Negative Zone to hold unregistered heroes and villains). Captain America and Cable tell the heroes that some of the unregistered superheroes are about to be transfered to the Negative Zone Prison through a trans-dimensional portal on Ryker's Island. The plan is to intercept the transport convoy in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan while staying clear of any supervillains that sided with Iron Man and S.H.I.E.L.D. to prevent the interception. The heroes end up having to disable the anti-aircraft guns so that Cable's helicopter can get through. The heroes then fight Songbird before the last anti-aircraft gun is destroyed. To prepare for the ambush, the heroes destroy 3 more anti-aircraft guns. With the ambush occuring, the heroes fight to keep the convoy from leaving and to free the captive superheroes. After taking out the transports, the heroes end up fighting Lady Deathstrike. Lucky for them, Thing arrives and knocks her out. After taking out some S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents, Lady Deathstrike recovers and goes on the attack. With news of Iron Man approaching, the heroes go to intercept him. When they catch up to Iron Man, he unleashes Yellowjacket on them. The heroes receive help from Firestar who helps to defeat Yellowjacket. With Yellowjacket defeated, the heroes then take the opportunity to escape like the captive superheroes did.

Two weeks later, S.H.I.E.L.D. and Iron Man still strengthen up their forces. A major disaster occurs at the Geffen-Meyer Chemicals in New Jersey and that there are trapped workers inside. The heroes uses Cloak's teleportation to get inside. They discover too later that it's a trap when it turns out that the chemical plant is owned by Stark Industries and that Cloak is neutrilized. Iron Man appears with his Pro-Registrationg Group and the Thunderbolts. When Iron Man offers an amnesty, Captain America accepts only to secretly plant something that disables the Iron Man armor. The heroes end up having to clear a path for their side to escape. They run into Bullseye fighting Colossus. The heroes assist in fighting Bullseye. When Bullseye is defeated, Colossus tells the heroes that they need to destroy some chemical tanks to create a smokescreen that will enable the superheroes on Captain America's side to escape. They soon encounter Wonder Man following the destruction of some chemical tanks. After defeating Wonder Man, the heroes cause a smokescreen and head to rescue Cloak and Dagger. However, they are being attacked by She-Hulk and Molten Man and the heroes come to their rescue. With She-Hulk and Molten Man defeated, Colossus stays with Dagger to revive Cloak while the heroes head up to help Captain America. While Captain America is busy with Iron Man, the heroes fight War Machine. When War Machine is defeated, the players head down to help Captain America fight Iron Man. When Iron Man's system ruptures and Captain America grabs onto him when he flies out, Mister Fantastic deals with the heroes. Mister Fantastic escapes the fight as the heroes help Captain America fight Iron Man. Upon his defeat, a chemical tank goes off as Iron Man escapes. While Captain America looks for Iron Man, the heroes return to Cloak's location to get the wounded ready for evac.

The Fold The battle at Geffen-Meyer Chemicals rages on. Something goes wrong when Bullseye, Green Goblin, Lady Deathstrike, and Venom III start acting wierd and attack the S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents. When planting the stolen bombs from the Agents, one of the agents is revealed to be Nick Fury in disguise as Green Goblin targets him. When Nick Fury encounters the heroes, he informs them of what happened and takes them to the bombs. While Nick tries to disarm the bombs, the heroes fight Green Goblin and Venom. However, Venom's interference kept Nick Fury from disabling the last bomb.

The heroes wake up in a base that only Nick Fury knows about and reveals what just happened and how much Life Model Decoys had to save them. Nick also explains that he tried to explain to Iron Man about what happened to the villains under his control, but Iron Man refuses to believe that. Nick states that someone hijacked the nanites controlling them. Neither Iron Man or Captain America don't think someone did. Nick Fury tells the heroes that something big is going down that will be more than the "Civil War." Now the heroes have to help Nick Fury who is behind this attack seeing as both sides think they are dead.

Nick Fury states that Tinkerer might know who is pulling the strings behind the recruited supervillains losing control. Nick Fury and Tinkerer trace the signal to Ryker's Island right when Captain America was about to lead his group on a raid to the Negative Zone prison. With Captain America's forces already in the Negative Zone prison doing their assignment, the heroes run into Maria Hill who unleashes some S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents on them. With the room containing the nanite-controlled villains locked up, the heroes will have to get the Access Card from Maria Hill. After fighting some S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents, they managed to get her Access Card. The heroes then fight Penance who accidentally lets loose some nanite-controlled inmates. With Penance and the nanite-controlled inmates defeated, the heroes begin to transmit the S.H.I.E.L.D. nanites log to Nick Fury. Analysis from Nick Fury and Tinkerer states that some megalomaniac is overriding the controls to the S.H.I.E.L.D. nanite control systems. To study this, they would need to get an untainted nanite sample that hasn't been injected into anyone yet. Nick Fury arrives to help them infiltrate Prison 42. Penance decides to help them get into the Negative Zone.

Upon arrival in the Negative Zone, Nick Fury heads to the Portal Room to keep it open while the heroes head down to the Nanite Lab to get a pure nanite sample. When the S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents there start to prep someone to be injected with the pure nanite sample, the heroes end up fighting the S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents to prevent that. One gets injected into Equinox and the players had to fight him while Nick Fury locates another sample. When they find the sample, something goes wrong with the nanite-controlled villains causing them to attack both sides. Captain America and Iron Man end up in a truce in order to escape. The heroes have to get to the Power Conduit in order to restore power to the teleporter. The players save Luke Cage and obtain a second nanite sample after defeating Grim Reaper. Then they save Firestar from some nanite-controlled villains. After replacing the Power Cores and activating the portal, the heroes end up fighting Molten Man. They soon discover that the nanite-controlled villains are reviving each other somehow. With no other option, Nick Fury instructs all friendly units to get to the portal before Prison 42 explodes. When the heroes reach the portal, they are attacked by nanite-controlled inmates led by Whirlwind. When both sides make it through the portal, they are greeted by Maria Hill and the S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents with her. Iron Man tells her to stand down and to get the medics down here.

Three days later, a funeral service is held in honor of those who are presumed deceased or missing (Nick Fury being amongst them). Back at Nick Fury's secret base, Tinkerer had already left as Mister Fantastic detects a lot of nanite-control signals throughout the world. Now there is an invasion of nanites affecting the world.

The first stop is Wakanda to help the Black Panther. Cannons are firing on Wakanda and the heroes have to destroy them. With the four cannons destroyed, the heroes encounter a nanite-controlled Havok and defeat him. Upon entering the city, the heroes have to restore the Tower Defenses. After that's done, the heroes end up fighting A-Bomb when on their way to the Black Panther's palace. Justice shows up to assist A-Bomb. When the reach Black Panther's palace after the defense systems are activated, the heroes receive a transmission from Nick Fury (who has become infected with the control nanites) who states that the nanite-controlled heroes and villains now refer to themselves as The Fold. Black Panther's palace is then attacked by nanite-controlled Wakandans led by Green Goblin and Venom III. The Fold forces are defeated as Green Goblin and Venom III are taken prisoner.

While all this was happening, The Fold has taken control of Stark Tower. Yellowjacket, Iron Man, Goliath, and Mister Fantastic are researching a way to take out The Fold. They plan to use one of The Fold's Repeater Towers in Reykjavík, Iceland and send an anti-control nanite into it in order to paralyze those infected by The Fold and cure them. The heroes make their way to the Nanite Base there. Once they reach the entrance, they end up fighting a nanite-controlled Spider-Woman and Wonder Man. When they are defeated, the heroes infiltrate the base. Once inside, they end up fighting a nanite-controlled She-Hulk. While destroying the Nanite Amplifiers, the heroes fight a nanite-controlled Colossus and a nanite-controlled Firestar. After besting enhanced Fold guards, they discover that Tinkerer is behind this as he unleashes Whirlwind and some Fold soldiers on them. When they catch up to the Tinkerer, he attacks them alongside two Fold soldiers. Tinkerer escapes to the top of the Repeater Tower to jam the Nanite Statis Signal. The heroes head up there to override it. They managed to knock out Tinkerer, but Fold Soldiers attack as they upload the signal. With the Nanite Statis Signal complete, all Fold soldiers and victims are paralyzed. However, the nanite-controlled Nick Fury appears in cybernetic armor and draws the power of the Fold to attack the heroes.

The heroes managed to round the the Fold and cure the infected.

Endings There are two endings depending on the side the heroes take:


 * Pro-Registration: Congress ammends the Superhero Registration Act where the updated version allows heroes to voluntarily register for training without having their identities revealed. Iron Man becomes the new Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. and speaks at the capital stating that superheroes are not to be treated like weapons.
 * Anti-Registration: Congress repeals the Superhero Registration Act as the President pardons those who went against the Superhero Registration Act. Captain America speaks at the Lincoln Memorial about the heroes gaining another chance and hopes that they won't squander it.

Bosses
Hey guys will ya'll add Deadpool as a common boss, add Iron Man, Mr Fantastic, &Songbird as Anti-reg bosses, add Captain America, Luke Cage, & Iron Fist as Pro-reg bosses, add Absorbing Man, Winter Soldier, Lizard, Scorpion, & Grey Gargoyle as Wii/Ps2/PsP exclusive common bosses, and remove Jock O' Lantern & Backlash.--Kyronix (talk) 01:42, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. The PS2/Wii exclusives were added to the table, and I talked about playables as bosses in the paragraph above it. --Teancum (talk) 11:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright thanks. But what you said only playable characters, bosses, & major characters should be listed, Jack O' Lamtern Backlash are neither of those, Jack O' Lantern doesn't even appear in a cutscene (Its Green Goblin you see). And I also thought you could put an endnote (or whatever those little letters after some words are called) after the playable characters you fight to show that they're bosses as well. The same with Nick Fury. And also I forgot another Ps2/Wii boss, Man-Ape or Ape-man, I never remember.--Kyronix (talk) 13:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Jack O' Lantern appears in the cut scene where all the villains are released. But he never actually shows up as a boss you fight. He isn't anything major. Green Goblin is on his glider, Jack is running.
 * Updated per all your notes aside from the footnotes fore playable bosses. I mentioned that in the prose.  Really it seemed to fit better there as I could mention an example or two rather than getting a little "game guide-ish" and footnoting everything.  If you see any more bosses that need to be moved/removed/added let me know. --Teancum (talk) 14:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks man but what about Man-ape, you didn't add him. And also wouldn't Cloak fit under other characters, I mean he's just as major of a character as Nitro & Namorita are.Kyronix (talk) 15:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've actually looked through the Wii's files and couldn't find Man-Ape. When do you fight him? --Teancum (talk) 15:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

In Wakanda, when your trying to save the vibranium. But if he's not in the Wii files he might be on the Ps2 only.--Kyronix (talk) 16:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I definitely think Jack o'Lantern should be added to the "Other Characters" list. If Senator Lieber, who plays pretty much no role in the game whatsoever, is added, so should any villain appearing, regardless of whether it's only a CGI scene or not. Nyssie (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not how video game articles are done here. We don't just add someone else because there is already a very non-notable character listed. It's not the purpose of this enyclopedia to be a guide to every character in the game. As I said in another section: notable characters only, not everyone. This same thing happened with the original game, too many people just added too many characters and it become a cluttered trivial mess. RobJ1981 (talk) 17:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the good senator. Stan Lee's cameo is mentioned in the prose of the characters section.  Someone snuck him into the chart without me noticing. --Teancum (talk) 18:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)