Talk:Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

Edit request from Goodsson2, 9 June 2011
Add another category to page

Goodsson2 (talk) 12:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ❌. Specify what category you want.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 13:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Super/Ultimate MvC3
So we know for a fact Capcom's going to be revealing something at Comic-Con this week, and the rumor being paraded by multiple sites is that of a "Super" style expansion. In addition, Lupinko, the guy who leaked the entire MvC3 roster months in advance, claims he's going to be revealing the whole roster even before Capcom's panel. Between these two things, whether or not either proves to be true, there's inevitably going to be a lot of false or unverifiable info added to this page by anons and registered users alike, if not outright defacement depending on how things develop. Given this page's history of vandalism, should we request protection for MvC3 and MvC Series now, or wait and see how things pan out? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 00:47, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We might as well wait. I remember asking for protection in advance for some other page and was told to wait until things got serious before asking again.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 01:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So, the artwork of the other eight characters was leaked (or at least what appears to be the actual artwork). What do we do now? WaninokoZ♪♫♪ 18:11, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, WHERE ARE THEY I WANT TO SEE THEM SO BADLY FULL OF HYPE RIGHT NOW. Second of all, I think we're going to have to wait until official reveals, as usual. Maybe I'll add a warning.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 18:22, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out Eventhubs. It's on their front page. WaninokoZ♪♫♪ 18:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * First thing's first: semi-protection and a warning on the page until we make a decision. We don't want anons constantly adding those guys if we don't want 'em on yet. As for the newbies, it's DEFINITELY official art, as it was taken FROM Capcom's website. Normally I'd say no since we've never added leaked content before, but this is PRETTY significant, almost as bad as when Magneto and MODOK leaked. For now, I think we should keep 'em off until Capcom puts the official word out, but we should probably look into policy about this sort of thing further. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:25, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll get around to requesting protection, but I wanted to ask: Are we going to separate Ultimate into its own article and request protection for that? Or should I just request protection for Vanilla MvC3?  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 18:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Protection for Vanilla is a must in either case. As for a separate article, between the new characters, stages, and feature set like spectator, there might be enough to justify it. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, it's done. Hopefully an admin will take pity on us.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 18:43, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ...okay, putting a new twist on the situation, IGN's reporting on the leaked characters. Since they're obviously established as a legit source for VG stuff by Wiki standards, do we add the characters now and use them as the citation, or continue to leave 'em off? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:45, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * They did say that "Capcom has not confirmed these as final." They admit that these aren't official. I still think we should wait.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 18:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

By the way, the protection request was rejected. I'll have to wait until things start getting disruptive before I ask again.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 23:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Capcom's acknowledged the leak and confirmed its legitimacy. Given the circumstances, I think it's okay to add them. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Anyone know if Shuma-Gorath and Jill are still DLC characters, or are they included on-disc? When I was watching the Ultimate MvC3 Live Stream, they weren't on the selection screen.WaninokoZ♪♫♪ 03:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The UMvC3 reveal trailer has them as DLC still.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 03:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Reassessment
Came here via the reassessment request in the talk page template. Bumping this up to B-class; some suggestions for improvement are below.
 * The table in Playable characters seems odd, since it creates so much white space in the text, but now that I look at Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars I guess it's standard for fighting games. The sorting is still strange, though- if you just flip between the Marvel and Capcom columns, the Modok/Magneto lines just switch places- looks like 'M.O', because of the dot, should be before 'Mag'. Also, why are Marvel and Capcom italicized in the table?
 * "Similar to Street Fighter IV, Capcom's design philosophy for Marvel vs. Capcom 3" - this sentence is saying that the design philosophy is similar to the SF4 game (rather than to that game's design philosophy). Try rewording it.
 * Development doesn't really talk about the game's place in the series- i.e. that it's the 3rd MvC game, or the whateverth in the series as a whole. Other than not doing a arcade version, what changed between MvC2 and MvC3? (Or between MvC3 and whatever game was released last before it)
 * "Mad Engine, Inc." - Wikipedia doesn't use company types (inc., ltd.), so this should just be Mad Engine
 * I know some people do it, so this is just preference, but I don't see what the first mini-paragraph in reception adds- those numbers are already in the reviews table
 * Speaking of the table- GI's score formatting is off from the others, and you should consider adding how many reviews are included in the metascore (e.g. "86% (X360, 56 reviews)")
 * 2-sentence paragraphs are frowned on; maybe consider combining the awards and sales paragraphs with the first "overall reception" paragraph, or at least with each other if you remove that one.
 * Is Capcom-Unity a reliable source? And if it is run by capcom, rather than as a fan website, are you using it reliably? I didn't poke too much, but I looked at ref 13 and it appeared to be a blog post with nothing saying who "jgonzo" was. If it is reliable, expect to have to defend it at GAN.
 * It's Capcom's community website, run by its employees (they write the blogs too)...so, I think it counts as reliable. Wani (talk) 20:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Other than that, this is pretty ready for GAN. The "medium" issues I mentioned were the whitespace around the table (I don't do fighting game articles, so I didn't know that was a common thing) and the Capcom-Unity cites. -- Pres N  18:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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