Talk:Marx's theory of alienation

Grammar gender issues
There is three different gender issues going on within this article. There's the use of he or she, they, them, himself, he his. I strongly believe only one should be used, however, I'm guessing most editors on Wikipedia prefer the male gender since I fixed it but it keeps getting revert. -- MurderByDeadcopy  "bang!"  17:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * POV-warrior provocation foe an edit-war

Hello, MurderbyDeadCopy:

I removed the neutrality tag, because it is not the subject of the dispute between us. Your grammatical errors undermine your justifications for fake "gendre" and "grammar" problems in the article, which is about people, not things. The ungrammatical changes you made, under the guise of "gendre neutrality" have obscured the meaning of the subject with inaccurate usages. This strikes me as edit-war bait by a POV-warrior, because the provocative tone of your edit summaries confirms that you are cruisin' for a quarrel. I sall not oblige you, and will delete the fake neutrality-tag, and revert your obscuring edits a day from now.

50.9.48.58 (talk) 18:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Based on what you just wrote, I don't believe English is your first language. There are three different gender usages in the article right now. I didn't make any grammatical errors, I fixed them. I don't believe you made them either, you just don't want them corrected. Based on that info alone this article needs to be tagged until it is fixed. -- MurderByDeadcopy  "bang!"  18:31, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Present title is clear and serves as a natural disambiguator. (closed by page mover) Brad  v  00:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Marx's theory of alienation → Alienation (Marx) – or Alienation (Marxism): Shorter and concise. "X's theory of Y" does not seem to be an appropriate title. Ե րևանցի talk  21:28, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * And redirect Marx's Theory of Alienation (book) to simply this page (Marx's Theory of Alienation). -- Ե րևանցի talk  21:29, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak support. Indeed, theory of is excessive verbiage. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:01, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Prefer theory of alienation WP:NATURALDIS preferable to parenthetical. Marx's name doesn't need to be in it, as its just an attribution... would be like trying to name it Einstein's theory of relativity when theory of relativity suffices. -- Netoholic @ 17:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Not an improvement on the perfectly clear and precise title we have. Srnec (talk) 00:44, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose Current title seems fine to me, per WP:NATURAL guidelines on disambiguation.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


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critcism
you have two lines of criticism that are largely incomprehensible. what exactly is the criticism? the proles have destiny in their hands? like what? if they overthrow the gov't like in russia? how many russias have there been since that happened? marx was right 9/10 occasions. china and vietnam were not worker rebellions they were political movements against foreign occupiers. so where is this frenchie's criticism at all valid in the last 100 years of history? maybe you can elaborate because this seems like weak 'criticism'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.74.226.149 (talk) 00:20, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * @174.74.226.149 Malokuir (talk) 21:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Clarity on the term "at home" in "Forms of alienation"
The phrase "at home" in this section is used but not well defined. For example, "The terms Entfremdung ("alienation" or "estrangement") ... indicate that people are "alienated" because they are not at home in the modern social world". Does this mean they do not belong, do not have their needs met, feel isolated? The term is further used to define the forms (eg. "People are objectively alienated if the social world they inhabit is not a home" ). The idea of their world being "a home" or not is not well explained and could be confusing— at least it was to me. Given the wide range of similar meanings feeling "at home" can mean, this could use elaboration, in the form of giving context of how Marx or Hegel originally described or defined the term.

I am not confident enough to make this change, and am writing this because it was personally confusing to me. If it seems clear and is just my misunderstanding, I apologize.

129.110.242.94 (talk) 18:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)