Talk:Mary, Untier of Knots

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Source: Maria Knotenlöserin --Janiwan 13:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to Neddyseagoon! :-) --Janiwan 10:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Is it spam or not?
See Weblinks: http://www.maryundoerofknots.com/ Thanks --Janiwan 20:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit updates on the accession of Cardinal Bergoglio to the Petrine See
I wish to reinstate some of the content on eastern art connections "undone" last year and will add my translation of the German "history" segment MrsKrishan (talk) 14:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Revised page restoring ellisions with new details, links.MrsKrishan (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Art history
The art history essay, aside from lacking suitable documentation, is a personal essay unrelated to this painting or the devotion inspired by this painting. If you want to start a new entry on Mary's girdle in art history or add to Marian art in the Catholic Church, perhaps you should do so. But you'll need sources. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh we meet again, my Pope-page nemesis! No desire to engage in another edit war with you here (you do so like to pick fights) nor do I consider it your place to tell me what needs to be "new" when I have a proven long-term interest in the "old" development of material at this location. Art is not a separate category to be discarded by Jansenist phillistines as "art history". Wikipedia is a place where the rich intersection of culture, faith and reason may bear fruit, notwithstanding geek-emenegogues who do their best to contracept whatever they find unamenable to their constrained view of reality. I have reinstated and expanded with Apericida document defence. Happy Easter! MrsKrishan (talk) 23:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll get around to repairing what you've done soon enough. You continue to add personal observations without proper sourcing to art historians or critics, and adding a blag to external sources is just more of the same. I think anyone who looks will find that I was joined by several others in preventing you from adding similar personal material to Pope Francis. I'm afraid you have a bad track record for this sort of thing. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 01:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I trust the track record: it indicates you're the revert-perp, wantonly deleting any and all material connected to this topic regardless of where in the article it was added. Who do you think you are demanding I wait for you to "repair" your vandalism? When I could be escalating this out of non-"discussion" Talk page (you only condescended to defend your reasoning here after I prompted you to) and up the ladder of subsidiarity to resolution. Retrieving better reference on the Philly +bishop (lost link to the "named" mention of THIS very image as the one gifted). I have also sought out expert guidance re: encylopedic relevance and richness of the cultural aspects relating this sacred image to other Wikipedia material such as Solomon's knot, and Bavaria's blue and white lozenge heraldry denoting Marian patronage (womb:tomb parenthetical intactness Immaculate Conception and Assumption related to perichoresis and periphrastic poetry of T.S Eliot you have purged repeatedly and without cause.MrsKrishan (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

simple devotion
Re this: "devotion to her has become widespread, a simple intense piety dismissed by some as syncretistic" This text has a citation to a general discussion of popular devotions (novenas, etc) without any reference to Mary Untier of Knots. I don't believe the source uses the word syncretistic either. We should be able to find a source that describes this devotion appropriately. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 01:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Who is the royal "we"? You seem uninclined to share this sand pit (Pope Francis warned build on rock not on sand, why didn't I listen?) with anyone else but your own self-referential self, a most irregular character of conduct for a Wikipedian. MrsKrishan (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I read the cited text, and it does not mention the devotion to Mary, Untier of knots, or call any devotion syncretistic. This sentence should be deleted as unsupported. Glammi (talk) 00:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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