Talk:Mass Effect Legendary Edition

Merging
Okay, so there are concerns that this topic does not warrant its own standalone article, which is understandable as details are rather sparse at the moment on what features the compilation will have or look like. However, I take the same view as another editor on another page who believe that it is a single entity that includes content from the 3 games and all DLC. As a precedent, I think it's worthwhile to check out other articles about video game remaster compilations, particularly those which compile remastered content from last gen consoles for current/next gen. And there's quite a few of them where there isn't a dramatically different visual change between the old and new ports: notable examples include Metroid Prime Trilogy, which also do not contain any new content which were not already present in the original release of each of the 3 games, and Jak and Daxter Collection. I believe that most importantly, based on the precedent Legendary Edition will attract critical responses which will be different in nature and focus from that of the original games. There's this compilation from 2012, Mass Effect Trilogy, which will never get its own page because it really is just a compilation of three unaltered games with some added content, and they have no Metacritic score or critic reviews which specifically discusses it in detail.

So I propose to keep and improve, as prior to November 7, 2020 there has been consistently substantial coverage from several reliable sources where the writers have been essentially pining for a remastered original trilogy or joined the rumor mill, which haven't been incorporated into this article yet. If more editors believe that it should be merged back into the series article, then that is the consensus everyone should acknowledge and follow. Haleth (talk) 11:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't oppose keeping it here for now but if the reception section or the development section failed to stand out on its own after the game's official release, we can restart this discussion. OceanHok (talk) 12:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * BioShock: The Collection seems like a good reference point for where this particular article might end up. Unless anyone has stern objections, I might make some edits and reorganize this article to be more in the BTC vein. Separate sections for Contents, Development and release, and Reception seem clear and logical to me.--Ktmartell (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I ended up splitting up the sections as I mentioned above, and also added more information. I think that most of it is good, but I may have been overzealous in some areas. Feel free to edit or remove certain information as needed. I hope that what I did was a net positive for the article.--Ktmartell (talk) 22:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Mass Effect Trilogy
I have had similar discussions with regards to the Mass Effect 3 article, but there seems to be hesitation over whether the term "Mass Effect trilogy" is an accurate way to describe these three games. However, with the recent influx of coverage from reliable sources, I think that we can now definitively say that "Mass Effect trilogy" is accurate. Some examples of reliable sources that have recently used the term "Mass Effect trilogy" to describe these games:


 * IGN
 * https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-legendary-edition-first-impressions-less-than-a-remake-but-much-more-than-a-basic-remaster
 * "Adding to BioWare’s determination to keep the project’s ambitions firmly under control was the Mass Effect trilogy being somewhat unique from a technological standpoint, particularly the original game."


 * GameSpot
 * https://www.gamespot.com/articles/what-mass-effect-legendary-edition-is-changing-about-the-original-trilogy/1100-6486987/
 * "Here's everything that's been changed, upgraded, or added to the original Mass Effect trilogy in its upcoming Legendary Edition."


 * EuroGamer
 * https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-11-07-bioware-announces-mass-effect-legendary-edition
 * "In a blog post on its website, BioWare boss Casey Hudson said this a remastered edition of the Mass Effect trilogy."

With regards to the entire article and the introduction specifically, I think that we have enough information to be confident that "Mass Effect trilogy" or "original Mass Effect trilogy" are accurate descriptions. Perhaps more subjectively, I also believe that they are much clearer and read much better than "first three main games of the Mass Effect franchise" or anything like that. I've been bold and updated the introduction to reflect this. Let's get a discussion going if anyone still disagrees.--Ktmartell (talk) 20:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I think either "original Mass Effect trilogy" or simply "original trilogy" would suffice. The issue here is that "Mass Effect trilogy" in and of itself also refers to the last gen retail compilation, released when the franchise was still at the height of its popularity, and represented the first Mass Effect game's debut on PS3. Haleth (talk) 04:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The last generation retail compilation is the Mass Effect Trilogy. ME1, ME2, and ME3 represent the Mass Effect trilogy. A subtle difference, but I think it's sufficient.--Ktmartell (talk) 23:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Good Article nomination head's up
Hey Everyone. Just wanted to mention that as long as the article remains stable for a short while longer, I'll likely be nominating it for Good Article status. Please feel free to bring up any last-minute concerns here, or update the article as necessary, and then I'll get the ball rolling on the next steps. Thanks!--Ktmartell (talk) 23:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Legendary Edition was subject to press coverage (though mostly rumours and speculation) for many years, with the existence of the remaster declared by Jeff Grubb from VentureBeat in May 2020 and later leaked by a Portuguese retailer around September 2020. Both are covered bt reliable sources. As the nominee, it is of course at your discretion to decide whether the information is relevant for a pre-release reception paragraph, but certainly the leak is verifiable. Haleth (talk) 17:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Pinnacle Station DLC restoration by modders
A new line was recently added to the Development section: "In November 2021, post-release, modders restored Pinnacle Station for its unofficial inclusion on the PC version of Legendary Edition." I am not sure if this should stay in because it doesn't actually have anything to do with the development process. I see three potential options: [1] Leave as is, [2] Remove, or [3] Change into a note. I would love to hear some opinions on this. If I don't hear anyone over the next week, I will convert into a note. Thanks much! Ktmartell (talk) 13:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * After reviewing other articles and determining that modding information is generally not included, I went ahead and removed all modding information from the Development section. ✅ --Ktmartell (talk) 21:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)