Talk:Massacre of Kondomari

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This article cites the Kondonmari Massacre as being the first large scale massacre of civilians in WWII. Is this correct? I ask, because I am quite sure that masscres were carried out in Poland before this date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew381968 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

In fact, here are several examples, Częstochowa massacre 4th September 1939, approx. 600 killed, possibly as many as 1000. Another Wawer massacre, 26 - 27th December 1939, 107 killed. In fact just a brief search indicates that the killing of civilian on mass, both Jews and non-jews was carried out from the 1st Septeber 1939.

So can you remove the incorrect statement about the Kondomari Massacre being the first mass killing of civilians in WW2.

The problem is, with such a simple error, what else is incorrect and wrong about this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew381968 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Reprisals are not murders or massacres
Please correct the article in that regard. --41.151.18.112 (talk) 19:00, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Re this bit: "the Prussian sense of military order according to which no one but professional warriors should be allowed to fight": As far as I know, this is not a "Prussian sense" but a provision of the Hague Conventions on war: civilians are not allowed to take part in fighting on pain of being executed if caught. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.44.198.233 (talk) 20:40, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

"Civilians" can take part in fighting in case of a levée en masse, which is arguably what happened in Crete. SophieAZ (talk) 17:20, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

"Arguably". Yes. "Levée en masse (French pronunciation: ​[ləve ɑ̃ mɑs] or, in English, "mass levy"[1]) is a French term used for a policy of mass national conscription, often in the face of invasion.

The concept originated during the French Revolutionary Wars, particularly for the period following 16 August 1793,[2] when able-bodied men aged 18 to 25 were conscripted. It formed an integral part of the creation of national identity, making it distinct from forms of conscription which had existed before this date. The concept of mass conscription was kept in place during the Napoleonic Wars.

The term is also applied to other historical examples of mass conscription."

That is not what happened there.

Civillian war crimes are not "levée en masse". 62.144.252.204 (talk) 23:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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Was the shooting of paratroopers in the air a warcrime at that time?
I would like to know. 62.144.252.204 (talk) 23:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)