Talk:Massey Ferguson

No Mention of models 40, 40B, 40I, 50 or 60 (I am sure there are probably others)

Would anyone complain if I started added high quality captioned pictures of Massey-Ferguson equipment?
 * Why would anyone? :)

Date Discrepancy
The article says "Formed by a merger between Massey Harris and the Ferguson tractor company in the early 1950s" but also "founded in 1958". Seems contradictory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.228.227.186 (talk) 09:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thats bcause the name was shortened from "Massey Harris Ferguson" to "Massey Ferguson" after a short transision period as the dealer networks, factories, model range etc. were rationalised and re branded. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ferguson
Was this writen by a Massey decendant as as Mr Ferguson is hardly mentioned and what about the Ferguson linkage system, Ford-ferguson and even the Ferguson-Brown tractor. -BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

harry Ferguson built  Massey  Ferguson by inventing the 3 point hydraulic lift which all tractors have  today 178.167.184.58 (talk) 03:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Part of AGCO
I may have missed it somewhere, but I don't see any mention that M-F is currently held by AGCO, along with a number of other brands such as Challenger, Fendt, and Allis. Anybody have the details? Kwagoner (talk) 19:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Genealogy type history map
This article may benefit from a genealogy type history map, to show history of the companies' evolution with links to external wiki articles, specific to that point in time, showing dates (with appropriate time stamp i.e. origin of decision??) or at least year and month. Or something that based on an interactive global map, that a person could hover on with the mouse to display brief basic details.

I may be able to help with the Australian side of the story, for instance: Hugh V. McKay Massey Harris PTY LTD; I've got some photographs of my grandfather I am willing to contribute, his name is Thomas R Hughes Eco impact (talk) 22:20, 18 June 2011 (EST - Eastern Standard Time) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.38.253 (talk)

Massey Harris built tanks during the war and there is no mention of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.15.115 (talk) 11:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Eicher
"In 1973, Massey purchased the German company Eicher, and many Massey-licensed Eichers were built. They later sold their interest, and Dromson now owns the company. They now build specialized tractors for vineyards and such."

This is not really correct. MF came in contact with Eicher around 1970 and provided transmissions for Eicher tractors. Due to the bad financial situation of Eicher, MF became soon the major owner of the company. In 1982 MF was about to close down the Eicher factory, when Eicher of India took over and bought the shares back from MF. In 1984 for the first time and then 1992 again Eicher went bankrupt. Following the second bankruptcy, the production of tractors was finally ceased and a new founded Eicher GmbH focused on spare parts for their former tractors. This company still exists and they later granted Dromson to badge their products as "EICHER". Btw., vineyard-tractors had long been part of the Eicher product range.91.15.205.175 (talk) 02:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Date Discrepancy
I am so very confused-it seems that, according to this article, the company was formed in 1953, 1958, and 1891. There needs to be more clarity about the difference in significance of these three dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.183.42 (talk) 18:52, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Canadian Army?
Nice they made stuff in WWII for the US Army. Did they make anything for the Canadian Army? Eddaido (talk) 06:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Reliability
"The next big selling model was the MF135, widely popular because of its reliability and power compared with other tractors at the time."

Ain't that the truth. I work on a pineapple farm, and the boss has two 135s, both bought in 1965 by his father. One is on its second engine, second gearbox - the other is still on the original engine, but third gearbox. After being driven to death by a string of incompetent backpackers for over half a century (probably why we've needed so many gearboxes), they're still doing good work moving crates around, as planters, and rollers. Absolutely bomb-proof.

I know this contributes absolutely nothing to this talk page - I just had to co-sign it.

220.237.37.159 (talk) 06:03, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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Efforts to reach consensus
Looking to address the other editor's concerns on why Massey Ferguson should continue to be labeled as a "Canadian-British agricultural machinery manufacturer." I've edited it to an "American" agricultural machinery manufacturer but it keeps getting reversed/re-edited so here we are, my stand/argument is that it's owner/merger "agco" is in the United States, it's headquarters is in the United States and it's legal domicile "the legal home of a corporation" is in the United States and it should be labeled as such, they have not been a "Canadian-British" entity since 1994 and it should be changed/updated to reflect the current state of the corporation in my opinion. Looking to address all of the proper concerns raised as to why it should remain the same through collaboration and consensus. Thanks Mr.right.247 (talk) 01:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm no longer challenging your edit. Having done research, an IP had earlier changed "American" to "Canadian-British", several weeks ago. GoodDay (talk) 08:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Headquarters and Location
on the Massey-Ferguson website itself it says it's GLOBAL AND MAIN headquarters is in Georgia u.s.a, there is no "france" even on their website under HQ facilities so I do not understand why people keep changing it to Canada and France when even according to the Massey-Ferguson website there isn't even a headquarters in either country AT ALL. 69.14.88.138 (talk) 20:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * go to their page and the first thing you see is "Masey Ferguson is a worldwide agricultural brand of agco" france is one of the largest production centres NOT A HEADQUARTER, if you go to facilities right on their page under "about us/profile" it literally says global headquarters and corporate offices 4205 River Green Pkwy, Duluth, Georgia, 30096, United States, if you somehow think otherwise what is the adress of this mysterious headquarters in france so we can verify? 69.14.88.138 (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * looking through this talk page seems to be an ongoing thing with people vandalizing the page and not just "recent" 69.14.88.138 (talk) 22:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, this is the parent company – AGCO – not Massey Ferguson.  –Skywatcher68 (talk) 01:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You are spreading misinformation, MF moved it's headquarters to Buffalo, New York in 1991 before AGCO even purchased them, AGCO after purchasing them moved it's global headquarters to Georgia, the same headquarters, what Is the address to this French headquarters? IT DOESN'T EXIST thats why you are hesitant to post it, You can not just spew nonsense and expect it to stick, go through the edits of this page, all the information was there before bots deleted it to fit this false narrative you people are making, again what's the address to this "french" headquarters, because even on the MF website it says the global headquarters is 4205 River Green Pkwy, Duluth, Georgia, 30096, United States. 24.214.25.143 (talk) 02:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * that's exactly what I'm saying lol they edit pages without getting concensus and this is what happens, the page becomes one giant page of misinformation and fiction, it's honestly sad. 69.14.88.138 (talk) 02:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)