Talk:MasterChef (American TV series)/Archive 1

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I notice that my original entry reference the first MasterChef series in America was deleted. somebody have a problem with it? It is valid historic material.Jlmorgan (talk) 15:09, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's still there -- it's just been moved to the bottom, as it is unrelated to the current series. -- azumanga (talk) 01:20, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Show by show summary?
Is it worth adding a show by show summary? Date of first airing, one or two lines summarizing activity, notable (unusual) events, etc. One the one hand I can see value in providing a list of dates, classic material for an encyclopedia. The summary could be of interest in comparing one season to the next. e.g Season one included chopping onions while season 2 was chopping apples, but both had the third episode concerning basic kitchen skills. On the other hand, wiki pages are not intended to be endless transcripts and where you draw the line is open to debate. Suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookfield53045 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Elimination Table
It seems like the elimination table is not necessary, hard to read, and confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.183.88 (talk) 16:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

somewhere between elimination table and airdates
The episode shown on July 25th and partially obstructed by the President's speech was shown (at least on the Comcast in my area) on July 19th. It was kind of nice to be psychic tonight. According to both the on-air guide and logic, tonight was supposed to be episode 13 (9 chefs remaining) and tomorrow episode 14 (8 chefs remaining). The elimination table does not show the show on the 19th nor does anything explain what will actually be shown tomorrow night. Aargh. Karinagw (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the table, added an invisi-warning, and cited the correct date. Several people seemed to think last night's episode was new. ICY TIGER'S BLOOD  19:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Airdates
Having aridates for a television show is a basic cornerstone of articles about television series. An anon IP with a history of edit-warring and disruptive edits is removing them. Given this anon IP's history, I ask that he or she discuss the rationale for his or her proposed deletions of this basic, necessary information, or the next step is to ask for admin intervention. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Make a seprate table please for episodes dont put it on the contestants table thankyou 205.209.83.211 (talk) 02:27, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your discussing this; that's a very important part of how Wikipedia works, and I do applaud you for this step at working as a part of a community.


 * Generally, we don't really tell other editors what to do; for example, if someone wants a page to have a new table, then that person makes the table themselves. Removing pertinent, important information because you don't happen to like where it's located really isn't proper. Other editors may believe that another table may be clutter and unwieldy, and that this current tables is the best place for that information, so that it's clear who got eliminated when.


 * So what we do in cases like this is ask this page's fellow editors to weigh in and give their opinions, through which we derive a consensus. In the meantime, we don't remove clearly and concretely pertinent information, such as a TV show's airdate.


 * I'm glad you made this first step, and I hope you'll make constructive suggestions here and work hand in hand with other editors, the way Wikipedia does. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Since you asked... I wrote the top item regarding a show by show summary. It's getting at the same issue of how much detail should be captured on this page.  I claim a table of the air date and mind numbing minutia would clutter more than assist. e.g. List of Hawaii Five-O episodes The single new column with the date adds something significant without visual complexity.  If anything, needlessly complex and trivia bound, it's the elimination "rainbow" table.  What debate is that table trying to support - some pattern of performance such as the winner always did well?  I think it's hard to look at, hard to maintain and of limited value.  Still, it's important enough to a few people for them to keep it updated, so let them do it.  Brookfield53045 01:52, 12 July 2011 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookfield53045 (talk • contribs)


 * I think something similar to MasterChef Australia (season 3) would be good, listing the episodes and challenges involved in that episode. 119.12.30.51 (talk) 22:32, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * If someone was ambitious, they could watch the online episodes of season 1 and fill in air dates, plots, eliminations (some episodes had multiple eliminations), etc. Try: http://www.ovguide.com/tv_season/masterchef-season-1-167751  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookfield53045 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I added an episodes table as discussed, however someone removed it stating it did not have enough detail. I based it on the aussie version which has had three seasons worth of episodes listed in the same way I listed these without problem.

I'm going to re-add it, I know it needs to be updated BUT if you have a problem with the lack of details how about help out by adding to it yourself rather then deleting my work. 119.12.205.237 (talk) 15:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Episode 15 Elimination Winner
Don't know if anyone will read this, but Suzy was the winner of the "childhood memories" elimination challenge. Tracy was in the top two, but she did not win the challenge. Revan46

137.82.201.147 (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers
Someone edited in that suzy gets eliminated tonight before the episode aired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.165.126.8 (talk) 02:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well then they saw the episode first. I mean I'm watching the finale with only Adrien and Jennifer competing. Though...same time it just changed and now I'm watching the Final 4 episode....this all confuses me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revan46 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately they aired the episodes partially out of sequence. They aired about five minutes of the finale which clearly explained who the final two chefs were, then switched back to episode 18.  (Albeit an erratic airing of that episode.)137.82.201.147 (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Separate articles for seasons?
At this point, we are only provided with a list of contestants and elimination chart for each season - is it time to split into 2 articles for each season with a synopsis of each episode, alike Hell's Kitchen (U.S)? Connormah (talk) 23:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I definitely agree with splitting the articles into separate seasons. Above I have proposed a layout for episode summaries! Check it out, so we can formulate these separate articles! Thanks! TDI19 (talk) 02:15, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Episodes Proposal
Hi everyone! I was thinking about this issue the other day and I believe that it would be solved more accurately if done without the table. Maybe more like Food Network Star? Here is my proposal with the info that was already on the page. After an episodes subcategory, each episode is a category underneath that.

Episode 5 (June 20, 2011)
The top 18 compete.

Mystery Box Challenge

 * Mystery Box Ingredients: salmon, strawberries, fennel, white asparagus, ricotta cheese, potatoes, pistachios, balsamic vinegar, fresh dill, puff pastry
 * Time: I am unsure how much time was given
 * Results: The judges announced their top three dishes, based on preparation and presentation alone, and also singled out the dish they believed was the worst.
 * LOW: Ben (strawberry balsamic salmon). His dish was deemed as "hideous", as his salmon was undercooked.
 * HIGH (top three): Suzy (name of dish as seen on the show) and Jennie (name of dish as seen on the show)
 * WIN: Christian (pistachio-crusted salmon)
 * Reward: To choose the style of food that everyone would cook for the elimination challenge; Received immunity in the elimination challenge, and did not have to compete.

Elimination Challenge

 * Theme: Cuisine of Europe (Italian, French, and ???)
 * Time: 1 hour
 * Results: The judges announced the two winners of the challenge, and the worst three dishes. Two chefs were eliminated.
 * WIN: Derrick (French cheese puff stuffed with poached egg) and Max (Poached cod in cream sauce)
 * Reward: To be team captains in the next challenge.
 * LOW (bottom three): Erryn (Beef carpuccio) Erryn was criticized for cooking an Italian dish instead of a French one, but was not sent home ultimately.
 * ELIM:
 * Angel (Fruit tart). The judges said that Angel's tart was "horrendously executed", and she was the first sent home. 18th Place
 * Mark (dish). Mark was eliminated after Angel, mainly for putting uncooked flour in his potatoes. 17th Place

Let me know what you think! I am sure there are some improvements to be worked on. I also propose splitting the seasons into separate articles, now that the show is expanding! Thanks! TDI19 (talk) 02:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me, though I think bold text would be better used rather than level 4 headings for all of the separate sections, as it'll clutter the ToC if we do split into 2 articles for each respective season. Connormah (talk) 02:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Change season overview
Maybe change the season overview judges part to be more like the one one found on the America got talent page, since it will reduce horizontal space use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.184.76 (talk) 12:50, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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