Talk:Mastika

Confusing
As a reader of the article (and familiar with most of the things listed in it), this article is confusing and misleading and it would be better divided in different ones, even if smaller. It mixes up completely different things in a confusing way just because they have similar names, despite coming from completely different languages. The page contains too many different information for too many different things, and with many contradictions. For example, the incipit of the page ("Mastika is a liqueur seasoned with mastic") albeit being spot on for the Greek Mastika, is immediately contradicted a few lines below when it says "mastika is a strong spirit similar to ouzo or tsikoudia", which is twice wrong: first wrong, Greek Mastika is not related at all with ouzo or tsikoudia; second wrong, ouzo and tsikoudia are extremely different things. As it is now, the page only provides a lot of disinformation and would be better deleted. 94.155.221.18 (talk) 06:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Advertising
I think it looks much like advertising: placing an advertisement poster of the Peshtera brand [800x600 pixels at that], also there is a link for the same brand's site at the end of the article [stating that it's the most popular in Bulgaria]. Isn't that too subjective? --Zliv 10:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I dont find it as advertisement, i added the link ( not the picture ) and it is a fact that is the most popular brand in bulgaria. (sale info/statistics are available all over the net). in addition i searched for other brands websites to place them but couldnt find, i guess that only peshtera has a website. --[mitko] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.64.139.1 (talk) 18:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Peshtera brand is just one of the relatively big number of mastika producers in Bulgaria (which i won't mention here). Also the link to the "funny" site (created by Mitko Nanov, note "mitko") placed at the bottom contains a hidden Peshtera advertisement as well. Also "i searched for other brands websites to place them but couldnt find" seems too lame to me as an excuse, it is simply not true. Therefore i'm inclined to suspect this brand in an attempted advertisement on this wiki page. Also it should be noted that this same brand took part in a corruption scandal in spring 2008 in Bulgaria, so from my personal point of view there is no doubt that Peshtera's managers find it normal to use non-market means of increasing their market share. Dachif (talk) 12:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Mastika2003 2.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Naming
Why did you substitute all South Slavic languages with Macedonian? There are others besides it. Your edits seem more and more like disruptive ones. -- L a v e o l  T 18:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The guy simply reverts at will. 3rdAlcove (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Merging this article with Chios Mastiha liqueur
It has been proposed to merge this article with Chios Mastiha liqueur. I think they should be separate, because they both may concern mastic liqueur, Chios Mastiha distinguishes itself through its PDO status and being produced only in Chios. Avarosalia (talk) 09:07, 22 June 2016

Accuracy of the article
I have listed the article as "Disputed" because I feel it lacks clarity and good sources.


 * The intro states that mastika is a liqueur seasoned with mastic, but then, according to the article:


 * Bulgarian mastika is flavoured with anise, and mastic is not necessary at all.


 * The part about Macedonian mastika does not cite mastic at all. It states that the alcohol is made with "grapes, raisins, plums or figs". What makes it different to rakija then?


 * The article makes the distinction between Chios Mastika, which is indeed made with mastic, but barely describes the other sort of Greek mastika. Is it also made with mastic? Or just flavoured with it? Or flavoured with something else?


 * Some statements are very dubious and not sourced, such as when it is explained that the spirit is "filtered through the roots of the mastic tree" in the Production part.

Oie blanche (talk) 18:08, 15 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oie blanche (talk • contribs) 18:04, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Significant usage in Romania?
Can't find any sources on significant mastika usage or production in Romania. If no sources are provided I will consider dropping the section on Romania. Beat of the tapan (talk) 12:17, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Mastika is also the name of exoplanet HD 179949 b, orbiting Gumala. --188.76.242.231 (talk) 14:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Chios Mastiha into Mastika
We don't need separate articles. Only one of this liquors sharing the name mastika is made with mastic. Spudlace (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

We still need another article for the other kinda of mastika, no? Even if as yet they're not represented in this article TiddiesTiddiesTiddies (talk) 13:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We could turn this into a disambiguation page, which is how that kind of thing is usually done. Spudlace (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge A particular PDO for mastiha doesn't need its own article. As for the other meanings of 'mastiha', that's a different issue. It could be handled by a headnote in this article. --Macrakis (talk) 20:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I am new to wikipedia so sorry if I am formatting this wrong. Actually I have just been to Chios and learned a lot about the local mastika production. It is my understanding that mastic is ONLY produced in Chios. Having two articles is redundant because all Mastika is Mastika of Chios. The tree is only native to Chios, and while there is some production of the liquer off Chios, the resin all comes from Chios. I cannot find any articles explicitly backing this up but I am not too good at research.... but for what its worth I also cannot find any examples of Mastika being produced from resin off the island of Chios. Worldsbestskier (talk) 5:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand, this can be confusing. According to our article on Chios Mastiha, it has a protected designation of origin in the EU. This liquor is also called Mastika English  Difford's guide. The word mastika is also used in some other countries for the anise-flavored liquor that is commonly known as ouzo in English. Spudlace (talk) 07:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 09:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Two issues
The article in its current form has one major issue and one smaller, but not unimportant detail that could be improved. First, the major issue: The article only mentions Greek mastika, while it's an undeniable fact that there is also Bulgarian and North Macedonian mastica. At least this should be mentioned. And if someone knows about the differences, that would be welcome. Second, the finer detail: I don't think the description of the flavour is really spot on. As is sometimes the case with drinks, mastika leaves a very different impression in the nose and on the palate. In the nose it's indeed plant-like, with a turpentine-like component reminiscent of carrots and mangoes. In contrast, on the palate it's strinkingly perfume-like; it reminds me of the laundry detergent scent of freshly washed clothes. 31.24.11.129 (talk) 11:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Greek mastiha vs Macedonian mastika
Just informing I have created separate Wikidata items and Commons categories for the Greek mastic-flavoured drink and the Macedonian anise-flavoured drink. I see this article has been stripped of mentions of the Macedonian mastika some time ago, but we might want to move this page to Mastiha (not sure how the Greek drink is commonly known in English). --Upwinxp (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)