Talk:Matango/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: ImmortalWizard (talk · contribs) 21:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

YES FINALLY! Someone is reviewing this and it's me! I love movies but not so familiar with movie articles. I'll try my best. Please give me some time, I have a busy life and the review might take several days. WOHOOO!!!  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 21:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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Lead
Since it's the lead, I might frequently add and alter my opinions throughout the review
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Changed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Changed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't think people would confuse the two terms, but i've swapped the terms here to maybe say something better than "starker". "Stark" is a word, not so sure about starker. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think people would confuse the two terms, but i've swapped the terms here to maybe say something better than "starker". "Stark" is a word, not so sure about starker. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I've re-phrased it, which let me chop out a few words, so I believe its better now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've re-phrased it, which let me chop out a few words, so I believe its better now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I think its better now.
 * I think its better now.


 * I've swapped out the statement, from the lead. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've swapped out the statement, from the lead. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've swapped out the statement, from the lead. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Plot

 * Removed the brackets. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed the brackets. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I tried re-writing it like that now, but it gets more bizarre to read. Like, you know its a yacht then (as the characters aren't particularly deep in this film imho), they all have sort of Gilligan's Island type of personalities, so it's easier to split them in the beginning so you know how many people there are, and you have a vague idea what they are about. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I tried re-writing it like that now, but it gets more bizarre to read. Like, you know its a yacht then (as the characters aren't particularly deep in this film imho), they all have sort of Gilligan's Island type of personalities, so it's easier to split them in the beginning so you know how many people there are, and you have a vague idea what they are about. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I tried re-writing it like that now, but it gets more bizarre to read. Like, you know its a yacht then (as the characters aren't particularly deep in this film imho), they all have sort of Gilligan's Island type of personalities, so it's easier to split them in the beginning so you know how many people there are, and you have a vague idea what they are about. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Cut and chopped. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Cut and chopped. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * *Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I changed it to him behaving erratically. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I changed it to him behaving erratically. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

"* Changed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Changed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Changed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

before I go further, are you willing to fix the issues? The list might already be overwhelming. I just wish well being. I don't want to let you down but I expect more problems arising.  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 19:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll start tackling them. I figured I would do it towards the end as you suggested above that things may change, but I might as well get going on it now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Cast
looks fine

Production

 * Gave him specifics. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Gave him specifics. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Originally I had this seperated into a themes/styles section and a production section. They got merged at one point. I could seperate them easily, but I think the style content sort of works as a background on how this film is approached (i.e: this is not the typical film director Honda was known for). Should they be seperated? Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Let's keep it the way it is.  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 16:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Let's keep it the way it is.  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 16:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "The story itself was based on William H. Hodgson's short story "The Voice in the Night", which originally appeared in the November 1907 issue of Blue Book. The script was relatively faithful to "The Voice in the Night", but added a number of extra characters." shorten it if you like. "The Voice in the Night" is repeated twice, which means one of them has to be removed. This could be mentioned in the lead as well.
 * Shortened it a bit. I think we mention that it was based on Hodgson's story in the lead already, the rest of it isn't as essential to know for the lead. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * who is Satoru Cuko?
 * Clarified here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "Takeshi Kimura wrote Matango's screenplay based on a treatment by Shinichi Hoshi and Masami Fukushima of S-F Magazine editor Fukushima's story" unclear
 * I think I made it more readable now. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "Optical printer" why caps?
 * Changed.


 * A little too many direct quotes in this section? Maybe paraphrase some of them? What do you think?
 * I shortened one, I kept the ones about genre in a bit still as I want to really stick to what the authors state here without changing them. Genre on wikipedia is changed so much by editors that I really want to stick with what others described the film is. I tried cutting up some other parts along the way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Release

 * Should theatrical and home media be merged?
 * I just dropped the headings. I guess I thought I had more to add here before, but I believe they stand on their own. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I think toho should be wikilinked at least once in the body
 * Wikilinked! Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:49, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Reception

 * Fix " "'Rebel era' ". Also, is there any article that can be wikilinked to this?
 * I'm quoting it per how it was in the book, should the inside quotes have " instead of ' ? Rebel era doesn't really seem to a real wide-used meaning, but I think in the context of the film and the description Honda gives, it gives the reader and Idea of what he's talking about. I'll change the quote marks. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "kaiju" in the second last paragraph does not require wikilink
 * True. Removed wikilink. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "scared the shit out of me" Wonder if that's appropriate
 * I was thinking of rephrasing it as like "found it scary" but I think there is a difference when someone says it scared the crap out of them to when they just thought something was scary. It's a blunt comment, but I think it's better this way as it gives a better idea of how gripped he was by the film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "In his book analyzing the kaiju film, Jason Barr noted a trend in Japanese genre films during the 1960s and 1970s to focus on themes of metamorphosis and assault on human bodies, with the most famous of these films being Matango." IDK but maybe shorten and subjectify Matango.
 * Tried to re-phrase it a bit here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * "In Monsters and Monstrosity from the Fin de Siecle to the Millennium: New Essays," what are these?
 * It's a book. I've clarified this. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * " The 1980 book The Golden Turkey Awards gave the film (under its American title, Attack of the Mushroom People) an award for "Worst Vegetable Movie", despite the fact that mushrooms are fungi, not vegetables [25] " I will give a clue - Incomplete
 * This is the latest addition to the article since I've worked on it that I didn't add. I've contacted the user in the past to expand on it with no response. I sort of doubt that the book itself points out the Mushrooms aren't vegetables. I'll remove the comment for now as it doesn't contain a lot of critical insight of what makes this the worst of this 'genre' they describe. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Results

 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

Alright, I am happy to pass this per second read.  Immortal  Wizard  (chat) 21:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)