Talk:Mateine

__NOINDEX__ The infomation listed on "mateine" is complete bunk. Mateine was made up by mate vendors to have a selling point for an awful tasting drink. I have a medical background and I have talked to doctors and non of them have heard of the substance.
 * Awful tasting is just your personal POV. I personally think that coffee is awful tasting. That doesn't mean that I'm going to go to its talk page and use it as an argument about the commercialization of coffee. Try making your point while sticking to a neutral point of view.&mdash;WAvegetarian&bull; CONTRIBUTIONS TALK &bull; EMAIL &bull; 05:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Mateine.
I would like someone to present some concrete evidence on the subject. Everybody cites everybody else. I know one thing for certain: There IS a difference between Mateine and Caffeine. The evidence is there: people that can't drink coffee, or are allergic to caffeine can drink maté. I am a maté drinker and have recommended it to several friends who could not drink coffee. None of them had the adverse reactions that coffee gave them. Evidently there is a difference, and people will have to admit it, be it a different element, or the maté having factors that alter the way your body responds to the Maté. Maybe mateine was invented by the maté industry, but it's hard for me to admit it due to the amount of people I've known that have tried maté.

Issachar
 * There isn't any difference between "mateine" and caffeine. The problem is that people assume that the only stimulant in coffee and black tea is caffeine. There is actually a whole cocktail of various types of stimulants, which is a different mix depending on the plant you are consuming. The mix found in yerba mate is different than that found in coffee. The allergic reaction is not from the caffeine alone but from the mix. It's like having a bad drug interaction. Caffeine (mateine) is a central nervous system stimulant; it is other things in the cocktail that cause jitters from coffee and smooth muscle tissue relaxation from mate. This whole argument is due to oversimplification. Chemistry is complicated. Don't expect everything to make sense when you simplify it. It's like trying to do physics without Calculus; it only half works.&mdash;WAvegetarian&bull; CONTRIBUTIONS TALK &bull; EMAIL &bull; 05:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)