Talk:Matt Lloyd (Paralympian)

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A number of sources have been suggested for this article, but there are currently no references about Lloyd from third-party verifiable reliable sources. WP:BIO says that without them, there shouldn't even be an article. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 00:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I am not connected with the BSHA or sledge hockey. Nor I have any direct relationship with Matt Lloyd.  He is someone I interviewed as part of my degree.


 * The sources provided are more reliable and detailed than for most (if not all) Ice Sledge Hockey players on Wikipedia.


 * Surely playing for a national team in a Paralympics game is enough to make someone noteable enough to be included in Wikipedia. I am in the process of collecting information on all British Winter Paralympic Games participants and had intended to write a page on each


 * Suggested additional sources are;


 * BBC Website - Vaughn ruled out of the Paralympics
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/disability_sport/4764924.stm


 * BBC Website - Winter Wonderland
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/disability_sport/4847360.stm


 * I would suggest that the BBC is a completely reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BSHA GB (talk • contribs) 18:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that we're talking at each other, and you've possibly taken offense at something I said about the article thinking it reflected on you, so I'll try again…
 * I asked if you were affiliated with the British Sledge Hockey Association because your username has the initials BSHA—it's common for someone affiliated with an organization to use the org's name, but rare for someone entirely unrelated to do so.
 * Based on some of your queries, I'm not sure you're reading the WP links I've been using. They point to pages that explain WP's policies and guidelines, and fill in the details for what I've said. In particular, where you wrote The sources provided are more reliable and detailed than for most (if not all) Ice Sledge Hockey players...: the phrase "reliable source" has a particular meaning on Wikipedia, which is why it's almost always a link to reliable source. That should help when trying to understand what's meant. As for the articles on other players, read other stuff exists—if you believe that the other articles have serious issues, then feel free to nominate them for deletion.
 * I agree that playing at the Paralympics level qualifies someone as meeting WP:ATHLETE. But I'm still not seeing (and haven't been able to find) any articles with substantial coverage of Lloyd himself—which is what a WP biography needs.
 * That first BBC link was solid, so I've added it to the article. The second (like the links below) looks redundant. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 23:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 00:48, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * : No question that this one applies (unless/until a few media outlets cover him in-depth)
 * : There's a lot in the article that's currently completely unsourced—being born with spina bifida and club feet, as just two examples
 * : The press releases are all primary sources; what's needed are secondary sources
 * : Without secondary in-depth coverage, WP can't verify that the accuracy of the above, leading to this

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