Talk:Matthew J. Saunders

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Comment: How does he meet WP:NMUSIC Legacypac (talk) 05:10, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

RoomfulofEchoes (talk) 12:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)Thanks for your comments.

Below are the criteria that he meets for WP:NMUSIC — he only needs one to qualify for inclusion, perhaps number 5, being signed to 4ADrecords is the key point that qualifies him (this and 10, the Visionairecompilation):

5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

He released two albums (vinyl and cd), two 7" singles and cd singles, two 12" vinyl and cd EPs on 4AD records as Magnétophone — 4AD are arguably the most revered and well known major independent in existence and has been since 1980, influencing many other labels. 4AD is home to The Pixies, Cocteau Twins,Scott Walker, The Breeders, Lisa Gerrard, Stereolab, Bon Iver, the song Pump Up The Volume and many others. References to Saunders and his band Magnétophone's albums and other releases on 4AD are listed below. 4AD are part of the Beggars Group of record labels which includes Rough Trade Records, XL Recordings and Matador Records — accounting for a very large portion of the music industry.

10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc.

He had a track included on the Visionaire No.53 Sound compilation alongside many A-list musicians such as Yoko Ono, Michael Stipe, U2, Liza Minnelli, Lalo Schifrin, cited below.

He wrote music for the feature length documentary Valentino: The Last Emperor (which grossed $1.8m in the US and premiered at Cannnes) and can be seen on IMDb (below).

6. Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.

Saunders has written songs with Kim Deal, Kelley Deal, King Creosote, James Yorkston, Peter Kember — all prominent musicians.

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.

He has been the subject as a guest musician in several magazines including The Wire (magazine), Self-Titled Magazine (links referenced below), he was in interview with Robots and Electronic Brains, there are many reviews of his albums as both Magnétophone and Assembled Minds online including rateyourmusic.com and musicohm.com — cited in the references. There have been profiles, interviews and many reviews in print but these aren't citable.

Comment: "sources 1-7 are not Saunders's agent/promoter, they are the official website of 4AD Records where Saunders was signed" is incorrect - the record label IS his agent/promotor. Legacypac (talk) 05:07, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Just not seeing "significant coverage from reliable, independent sources". Sources 1-7 appear to be his agent/promoter. The rest appear to be mentions/listings/placements. It is almost certain that the author has an undeclared Conflict of interest. KJP1 (talk) 07:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)