Talk:Maud Wagner

Notability
This person is not notable, given the many qualifications in her supposed achievement. She is the first: Known. Female. US citizen. To be, hold your breadth, a tattoo artist. So each and every nationality should have separate pages for their first "known" tattoo artists? one male, one female? What about the thousands of women tattoo artists who practiced their art in Borneo for centuries before the whites came visiting? What is the big deal about tattoo artists anyway? 59.182.149.176 (talk) 14:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just because you do not find the article interesting does not mean that the person is non-notable. First female US tattoo artist is of historical interest. Please stop your edit warring. Simon Burchell (talk) 14:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What edit-warring? I have made fewer reverts than you. What about first female US Navel-piercer, cabaret dancer, stripper, dog-trainer, first black, native-American, Irish....did you even read my previous message? 59.182.130.157 (talk) 19:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * HISTORICAL interest!!! -- rolling on aisles -- Now I have heard everything
 * Well, frankly IP you seem to think it is a "big deal" with this woman as you have invested a lot of time on her article today. And you seem to forget that Wikipedia is not based on your opinion but on guidelines concerning notability.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:11, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Exactly how much time, Babbler? Do not act like a bloody nutcase freak, like this tattooed specimen.59.182.130.157 (talk) 19:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Please try to remain civil. Insulting people is not going to win any arguments. As to notability and historical interest... One person tattooing in a culture where tattooing is common, as in Borneo, is not notable (although the subject of tattoing in Borneo is). However, in the time and place, women did not commonly tattoo. Tattooing is now increasingly commonplace in western culture, and this article helps establish where this trend came from. At the time, this person was going against cultural norms, and in so doing helped change them. This is of historical interest. Whether or not you find the subject of the article distasteful is completely irrelevant. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)