Talk:Mavericks, California

Maverick's in Film
The mention of the reference to Mavericks in Zoolander (which was recently removed) does belong in the article because it shows the extent that the name "Mavericks" has become known. The scene is about 2/3rds of the way through the movie when Ben Stiller's character hides out at Owen Wilson's character's place. Owen Wilson's character introduces him to a series of interesting folks there, including a "big wave surfer from Mavericks". Brholden 21:58, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Sounds good; I put that bit back in. (Not that I was the one who removed it.) -- bethenco 05:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Maverick's vs. Mavericks
This article says the surf spot was named after the dog called Maverick. Therefore being Maverick's, the apostrophe s noting ownership. Yet the article title has no apostrophe. If the correct title is with the apostrophe then the article should be renamed correctly. A cleanup of links pointing to it will also be necessary as there is inconsistency. Sparky132 22:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A google search for "Maverick's surf" gives 51K hits; a search for Mavericks surf" gives 472K hits (no quotes used in either search). Also, neither the Mavericks Surf Contest http://www.maverickssurf.com/Home/, nor the Mavericks Surf Shop http://www.mavericksurfshop.com/ use the apostrophe. Brholden 21:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Truth is not subject to majority vote. Maverick's is correct. Jef (talk) 03:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Other rambling about the name
I would like to move the article to Maverics, California. The US Board on Geographic Names convention for geographic names is to leave out the apostrophe, (no possessive forms are allowed). I created a redirect so people typing the bolded words above will get here. I didn't want to move the article unexpectedly. Does the community think it's okay to move this or is the consensus to leave it as is? David Jordan 08/29/2005

Contradictory Dates
Through the article there are numerous dates given as the "first" time Mavericks was ridden or discovered. None of them seem to agree with each other. This needs to be resolved somehow.

I had to look this up - finding, that, as I remember - it was just called MIRIMAR in the late 50's and early 60's. A group of us surfed the inside numerous times and outside only a couple - deemed too nasty with the rock bottom chewing up wipe out boards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.170.51.194 (talk) 22:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

"Matienzo" & "Dean"
This article does not identify who "Matienzo" ("...white-haired German Shepherd named Maverick, owned by a roommate of Matienzo. Maverick was used to swimming out with his owner, or with Matienzo, while they were out surfing.") or "Dean" ("Finding the conditions too unsafe for the dog, Dean paddled back in and tied Maverick to the car bumper, before rejoining the others.") are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Caffrey (talk • contribs) 20:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Removed controversy section
I can find no verifiable basis for the supposed controversy in the "Surfer's path" magazine archives. The all caps ranting on about it on the Sept 18, 2008 revision seems to be opposing the proposition that Jeff Clark discovered it alone and rode it alone for 15 years. This is something nobody is claiming and the article itself contradicts. As such I am removing it (my own revision) until a better reference to the supposed "Surfer's Path" article can be found. -Controversy regarding Jeff Clark's Story (now removed)-

According to the article "Maverick's BC (before Clark)" in the magazine "Surfer's Path", Jeff Clark did not discover Mavericks alone. A man named the wave after his dog and George Moore (deceased) was one of the first surfers on that wave. According to statements made by George, Jeff Clark was there that day and surfed the largest waves, but he was neither alone or first, either on that day or for the next 15 years. It is generally agreed that Jeff is responsible for popularizing Maverick's and it's growth today into a major surf spot. --Harodotus (talk) 10:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Non-neutral statement
"An invitation-only contest was held there every winter, depending on wave conditions. Now the company that runs the contest each year may have doomed it entirely thanks to new management." That is not neutral and starts being ironic. It could be rephrased and state objective facts on the changes and policies the new administration is using.Fmckee (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Current Popularity
Since the surf spot is personified by the surf contest results, I plan on cleaning up the current popularity section by adding bullet points or similar. While I work on a format I thought I should declare intent in case there are questions concerns. In its current state, adding additional contest results will make the section extremely cluttered. Jack&#39;s daddy (talk) 01:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Minor issue
What is the reasoning for the needless quotes around 'wipe out' and 'leash' in the Mark Foo section? I mean, really, a leash is a leash. That is what its called. Reading the current version makes it sound like Dr. Evil is explaining surfing to us. --Htw3 (talk) 16:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Apple Mac OSX Mavericks
At the WWDC, Apple announced their new version of their computer operating system was named after this place. I would expect an increase in attention on this article in the coming days. Group29 (talk) 20:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Move to Mavericks, California
I think that the move from "Mavericks (location)" to "Mavericks, California" is kind of no brainer, but I always want to cover the possibility that it is me who has no brain. Therefore, if anyone has a problem with the move, please let me know, and I will move the article back.

One reason for the move is that adding a comma and the name of a state is pretty standard on Wikipedia when dealing with locations. I am more familiar with the practice when dealing with towns and cities, but I do not see a good reason for locations without populations to be treated differently. In addition, when you can avoid using parentheses without making a horrible or overly long name, I think you should go for it. I think that this practice may be encouraged in the naming conventions somewhere, but I am not certain. If you want to get a response from me, please leave a message at my talk page rather than here. Thanks, Kjkolb (talk) 00:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Contradictory Info about 2013 Results
There are two different orders of finish on the websites and  for the year 2012-2013. I have included the results from the latter site because it appears to be the official one, but someone who knows the real order should check and fix this if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trbdavies (talk • contribs) 01:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Photo
Does anybody care that that's not a photo of Maverick's? Jackhammer111 (talk) 04:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Mavericks Beach
I've been doing some research on this area for a related article. According to the historical documents that I'm looking at, the name of this article should be "Mavericks Beach" not "Mavericks, California". Viriditas (talk) 22:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Environmental impact
There is a bit of sad irony in the history of access to Mavericks Beach. The state originally expanded access to protect the habitat of the Western Snowy Plover (Charadrius nivosus nivosus) shorebird population. The unintended consequences of expanding access was to increase the popularity of the surfing location, bringing many people to the site, which in turn, destroyed the habitat and scared the birds away. This kind of history needs to be included. Viriditas (talk) 22:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)