Talk:Max Brenner

Contradiction
Says there are over 50 locations in the first paragraph. But then number of locations says 49.

notable?
I think Max Brenner meets Wikipedia's notability requirements. A search on Google for "Max Brenner" reveals that there is over 100,000 references to the brand. Max Brenner has been the topic of news articles, reviews, listings on restaurant directories, and blog posts. There are Max Brenner stores in 5 countries, and it is particularly popular in Australia.

- James Foster 01:19, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Great! Can you please list some of the more useful references in the article? --NeilN 01:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

no one needs to list shit about why it's notable, max brenner is just delicious. everyone in new york raves about it. stop it.
 * Thanks for your input, but wikipedia really does require proof of objectivity and notability. And don't forget there are parts of the world where Max Brenner has never even been heard of. Why should they only believe wikipedia? After all it IS freely editable. Horst.Burkhardt (talk) 06:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Uhm
Might be nice if there was any indication whatsoever of what this company does/sells. *I* know that they make chocolate, but if someone just heard the name and came looking for information they would have no idea. 64.206.63.50 (talk) 20:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)tiktok
 * Yes. Quite strange, that this article doesn't even say what it's all about... It's like doing an article about German Shepherds without mentioning, that this is a dog breed... --84.72.103.18 (talk) 21:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Better like this? --Mystakuhl (talk) 17:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

reason some bds'ers boycott max brenner?
nowhere in any reliable source does it talk about max brenner's support of the IDF. that seems to only show up on bds-related websites. i did find this which talks about the reason to boycott max brenner might be because israel didn't allow chocolate into the gaza strip a few years ago. Soosim (talk) 06:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Found a reference in the Jerusalem Post to Strauss Group's support for IDF detachment. That is the reason that is frequently cited for their targetting by the BDS campaign. Chrismaltby (talk) 06:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

"Controversy" section
The quoted comments from various public figures are very disjointed and collectively produce a neutral point of view and specifically an undue weight problem. These comments are more relevant to the BDS page than to an entry about a chocolate shop chain that happens to have been the target of the BDS campaign. What would be neutral would be to note that the chain's connection with the Strauss group has made it a BDS target, that there have been protests outside the stores in Australia (and elsewhere?) and that these have been controversial within the context of the BDS campaign generally. The "he said", "she said" stuff becomes a coat racking exercise where people not directly linked to the protests have their remarks used to imply they are. Soosim, do you want to try rewriting this section in light of these concerns or do you want me to try it? Chrismaltby (talk) 12:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * it is relevant to this page and less so to the BDS page, since there are numerous examples of attempted boycotts, sanctions and divestment opps where you can't list them all. i do agree that it is a bit disjointed, but yes, itcomes out neutral (some in favor, some against). it is not coatracking, since these are the simplest, minimal comments excerpted from many, and from lengthier sources. (who is not directly linked that is quoted? i think i reviewed it and don't understand what you mean). Soosim (talk) 13:26, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

The fact that there numerous examples on the BDS page might suggest that if it's not sufficiently important to list these three quotes there, then it's not appropriate to list them here without the appearance of undue weight. The wording is a bit less disjoint now, but it's not clear what issue is being responded to by all those quoted, particularly Lee Rhiannon's which is apparently a statement about the BDS and does not refer to Brenner or the protests specifically. The Kevin Rudd quote refers to "jewish businesses", presumably Max Brenner, but this is a particularly troubling description of any business - what specifically makes Max Brenner "jewish"? Do we even know the religious/ethnic backgrounds of the shareholders of the Strauss Group. He presumably should have said "Israeli" business, but that would have undermined the political point about the protests he was presumably trying to make. Getting neutrality about this kind of thing will be hard, but I still think we should try. Chrismaltby (talk) 04:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * i think you are reaching, chrisma. read the articles, i am sure it is clear that they are all referring to the max brenner store in melbourne. you are jumping to OR by trying to figure out if strauss is jewish. and what goes for one page (BDS) may not necessarily go for another (max brenner). i think i would leave it as is for a bit and see if anyone else has a comment. Soosim (talk) 05:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

'Max Brenner' on Australian Junior Masterchef?
'Max Brenner' was a guest chef on Junior Masterchef Australia. He was also quoted in at least one of the articles. This is odd, given that this article says 'Max Brenner' is a composite name of the two founders. So who WAS that guy?
 * Ah. The "Milking it" article says that Oded is using the name.  Maybe worth a mention in the article? --Irrevenant [ talk ] 02:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * sure, worth a mention. here is a link to the episode (17) and 'his' picture. Soosim (talk) 10:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

bds supporter's comments about max brenner not having israel connection
roland - I am really surprised by your revert. a) you said that my edit is not what the source said. it is a quote by that person, so it is exactly what the source said. unless I am really missing something, I don't understand how you can say that; and b) why are you looking for the original video? even if you found it, it would be OR. and hence, that is why we rely on reliable sources - I am sure you are not suggesting that the Australian is not reliable, right? so please explain. Soosim (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably better to keep the discussion in one place, Talk:Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions.  Sean.hoyland  - talk 17:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Contradiction
The article claims in its early paragraphs that Oded Brenner started apprenticing in Paris in 1994 with Michel Chaudun and "spent the following six years learning the art of chocolate-making in Paris" -- and then claims "Upon his return to Israel in 1996, he opened a small retail chocolate shop". Clearly 1996 is only two years after 1994. The timeline does not make sense. Pmetzger (talk) 15:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

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