Talk:Max Trapp

Thoughts
Just a start, but a few more references added to the article; initial thoughts welcome though. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Those are solid references. My initial concern was, as my edit summary stated, "is this person notable to anyone not interested in this music area? Had famous teachers/pupils and was a prof, but seems no more notable than your average professor otherwise". With the exception of the prize, and not being a musician I have no idea of the value of that, I can only make assumptions about "the national composition prize" - I tried looking for info on it to judge its importance but was unable to find anything - maybe it has a more succinct name that isn't being used here, I still have doubts about notability, teaching famous people does not make one famous, but maybe I'm undervaluing his music and it's more appreciated in a musicologist's eyes.--Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I translated this from the German, along with an article on Reinhard Schwarz-Schilling. These are both very minor composers, to be sure. Trapp has minor notoriety as a "Nazi" composer (indicated in the article), and a google scholar search shows a number of mentions. His publisher was Eulenberg & as Schissel observes above a rare CD or 2 is available. Both Trapp (as a Nazi composer) and Schwarz-Schilling (as a teacher of Orff) are deemed notable enough for the German Wikipedia which generally has much more stringent notability standards than we do. Eusebeus (talk) 15:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, the initial lack of sourcing is understandable then, at least thanks to Schissel there, it's now better sourced than the German article :D I must admit my very first thought was if it was a hoax (Sound of Music - von Trapp musicians and all that). Re the notability - it needs to be more clearly stated then for readers who are not musicians/musiciologists, as I get to the end of the introduction line and think "and...what then?, what's he famous for?" I'm not sure about the 'was a teacher of ' as making one notable, much less so for being a Nazi. However, f his music was written and played at various level Third Reich events/parties/functions etc., then sure, but it needs to be stated.--Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (talk) 11:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Good points - be bold! and change the intro per your points. Meanwhile, I'll keep an eye on the German articles and when additional information is added I'm happy to translate it. Eusebeus (talk) 13:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)